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« on: July 14, 2008, 05:01:04 PM »
Franco Offline
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Not sure if this is possible:

Say I've got a large audio file with multiple live tracks.  I'd like to create markers for each of the tracks (I got that part down), but then, I'd like to export each file into Multitrack view to mix each one of the tracks independently. It would be great to import them "in time" as they are to be in the program as well (so I don't have to go through each one and line them up in the program).  Is this possible?
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« on: July 14, 2008, 06:44:20 PM »
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Well, it's all possible, but I think that there are ways it could be made easier... anyway, here's one (or perhaps two) ways of doing it:

You should be able to batch out each section - turn the area between two cues into a cue range by highlighting both entries in the cue list, and hitting the 'merge' button at the bottom of the window - and the batch option will then let you save each section as a separate file.

You can treat each of these files separately, i.e. as a complete session on its own, and then you can create a separate mixdown for each one. If you want to rejoin them all afterwards, (say, for a CD) all you have to do is open them all, and you can then place them in order in CD view, with no gaps between tracks, and you will have your continuous playback back - that is, as long as you don't extend any of the sessions by sticking things like reverb on them, making a longer file than you started with.

If you want to do your mixes like that, then you will have to reassemble each finished file in MV, and overlap the reverb onto the start of the next track, and build your final assembly back like that. You can still add track index points to the mixed-down results of your mixdowns (if you see what I mean...), but you will have to do this in EV before moving to CD view.
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« on: July 20, 2008, 07:36:29 AM »
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Thanks, I am completely lost in doing anything with merging cue markers.  In the Markers window, when I select for example, 5 markers and click on the "merge" icon, I simply get the entire waveform to be one marker (in EV).

What I did do was create markers for each of the sections I wanted to mix in MV (add effects to each of them in their own track).  I was able to batch export each marker range into its own file, told it to add no space between files.  The good thing in doing this is that when I went into MV, I was able to import each individual file and drop them into an independent track, and the beginning of each file snaps right at the end of the previous file. 

This will work, but since I didn't understand what to do with merging cue markers, would this automatically drop the ranges into MV somehow?
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« on: July 20, 2008, 12:21:46 PM »
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Thanks, I am completely lost in doing anything with merging cue markers.  In the Markers window, when I select for example, 5 markers and click on the "merge" icon, I simply get the entire waveform to be one marker (in EV).

You would! I only said to turn the area between two cues into a range... that's the only sensible thing to do here.

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What I did do was create markers for each of the sections I wanted to mix in MV (add effects to each of them in their own track).  I was able to batch export each marker range into its own file, told it to add no space between files.  The good thing in doing this is that when I went into MV, I was able to import each individual file and drop them into an independent track, and the beginning of each file snaps right at the end of the previous file. 

This will work, but since I didn't understand what to do with merging cue markers, would this automatically drop the ranges into MV somehow?

You are actually doing what I suggested. Unfortunately at present there is very little relationship between any of the cue options in EV and MV, although this has been given some serious thought regarding possible improvements recently. What will happen is anybody's guess, though - we will have to wait for Adobe. But since the ability to manipulate cues in a variety of different ways is critical to the way that most people use Audition, and it's clearly not optimal as it stands, I would hope that this is quite high on the agenda.
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« on: July 20, 2008, 12:51:00 PM »
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I suggest you keep it all as one session.  I mixed my early live recordings as you are proposing - one session for each song.

A mix evolves as you work through the show.  You'll make improvements along the way - EQ adjustments, better tweaks in the compression, whatever - and that might happen when you're working on track 12 of 17.  You then need to open up each of the previous 11 sessions and apply the same adjustments.  Also, each time you open a new session you will need to copy the settings from another previous track since much of the mix won't change through the show.

I don't think you really want to go there.
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« on: August 15, 2008, 05:08:51 PM »
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I'm glad I found this thread.  I am going to be taping a show tonight(yes I still say taping cause I like to).  And I was trying to figure out how do to the same thing.  I wasn't sure if I should stop after each song and save the session.  Then start a new one?  I thought that would be a pain, AND you're right, any effects would need a preset saved and then applied to every other session file so they were consistent. 

So , just so I'm getting this right, just let my computer record for 4 hours or however long, maybe pausing for breaks, and then just do everything after the fact with mixing down into songs?Huh?  I have 8 tracks BTW.

Thanks!! afro
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« on: August 15, 2008, 05:39:58 PM »
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That's what I'd do.  Pause to save whenever it's reasonable - I usually just stop at any intermission or significant break in the action.  I don't try to save between songs - sometimes the chatter that might happen on stage is worth having.
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« on: August 15, 2008, 08:56:50 PM »
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Cool, thanks!!
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