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« on: March 21, 2007, 02:01:00 AM »
JY Offline
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Hi

 I am new to Audition and this forum. I want to get a control surface and want to find out which works best with AA 2. I am specifically interested in Mackie control universal, Tascam FW 1082 0r 1884,  Alesis master control, or Digidesign Command 8 but am open to other brands as well, if they work well with AA 2.  I would like to hear some comments and recommendations from actual users.

Thanks in advance.

JY
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« on: March 21, 2007, 07:55:32 PM »
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I can speak for the Tascam FW-1884, and have done so here too many times in the past. I can answer any specific questions, but the basics are as follows.....

The audio i/o works well enough, and some guy in Holland (I think) is producing little kits to replace the Tascam mic amps, which have a tendency to go "Pop" and wave their legs in the air if you plug a mic in when the phantom power is on.  (Aside to Steve.. you heard the Tascam rep say in November they would contact me - well I'm still waiting)

The basic transport functions and flying faders etc. work well enough, but many of the other controls either do nothing or perform some random and often surprising operation. Having buttons with a mind of their own is not a feature I like and is far worse than them doing nothing.

I've tried to find time to look at working on the interface, but life is too short. Maybe one day....

I really like the FW1884, and it would be almost ideal matched to AA 2.0. It is a tragedy that Adobe and Tascam haven't got together and sorted out the match.

I do use the FW1884 on a regular basis and what works does really work well.
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« on: March 21, 2007, 08:38:52 PM »
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Thanks Wildduck for your reply.

Few questions for you. Is the initial setup fairly straight forward or do you go thru some long mapping routines. How good are the ASIO drivers and any latency issues. I'm currently using my Digidesign 002 rack for IO ( mothballed my Pro Tools Le 7 ). How good are the Mic Pre's on the 1884 ?

Thanks

JY
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« on: March 22, 2007, 12:45:48 AM »
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I do mainly simple broadcast work with the FW1884, so I'm probably the wrong person to ask. The main desktop machines here have Echo Audio and an M-audio 2496 respectively as the inboard soundcards, but I tend to use the FW1884 as the main audio interface with either machine (and sometimes with the laptops) as it is so much more flexible.

The mic pre's are quite adequate for my use, but like many of this type of device, they lack gain for recording quiet speech on dynamic mics (eg lip mic use). Most people here don't do this, of course, and with the powered mics here the gain is OK.

Setup is just a matter of selecting Mackie emulation and hoping, and has been simple for me. I read about others having trouble, though.

There is a little applet that lets you set up routing, and I usually use a rather strange setup where I record all the channels individually for mixing later, but route the live 'monitor mix' back to a muted channel to give a full as-it-happens record of the full 'event'. This, as I say, is for a sort of broadcast use rather than a small studio, giving an instant 'final mix', but with the possibility of re-mixing some bits later.

I've not had any problems with the asio drivers or with latency, but I'm not really working in areas where latency is a problem.

Http://tascamforums.com is worth joining, but it has introduced a one-time fee to reduce spam.
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« on: March 22, 2007, 03:42:13 PM »
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Thanks once again Wildduck for the wealth of information. I plan to use FW 1884 for very basic stuff, mainly to ride the levels during mixdown - with no midi channels and no more than 24 audio tracks, so I guess it should be more than adequate for my needs.

Cheers

JY
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« on: March 22, 2007, 05:02:35 PM »
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I hope you get on OK, and also hope someone else dives in with a rival suggestion, because I've been holding back recommending the FW1884 to others because of the phantom power dodginess and the lack of full integration with AA.

I should say that, not really being into multitrack music mixing anymore, I've only worked up to 7 tracks on serious recordings. I've done short tests with more tracks, of course, but I'm too old to enjoy working with multi-layered fader surfaces.

If you use a laptop, you should also note my previous postings about firewire and power management timers.
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