Bounce/Mixdown of tracks - why is it like this?

Let's say I'm mixing down tracks 1,2,3 and 4.  I highlight the wave blocks, right-click and hit "Bounce Selected Tracks to Unused Track" (or whatever it says).  

For some reason, the mixdown will insert itself in a new track (like track #41) between tracks 2 and 3, or 3 and 4 (or whatever).  The new out-of-place track wil be about twice the width of the other tracks, for some reason as well.

With version 1.5, when you did this it would mix/bounce selected tracks down to next open track (like track 5 if mixing down 1,2,3 and 4).

Anyone know why it takes an apparently random track (like 43) to mix/bounce to, and moves that track up between, say, tracks 3 and 4?  Is there something I'm missing?  Is this supposed to happen?

Thank you...

This has been discussed in at least one other thread - I'll see if I can turn it up.  I don't do much bouncing, but what I've noticed is if I'm using the organizer window in EV and insert a track in to MT (no session loaded) it comes in on track 7 or 8 rather than 1.

It is strange behaviour but what I do is this. You have all your tracks done etc and you select them. If you right click on the track below the selected tracks and select the bounce thingy, the bottom track will go grey(er) and will actually bounce onto the "Highlighted/Bottom" track.

Let's know how you get on.

BTW, make sure you have the extra track available by adding tracks.(Now WHO thought that one up? )

Mark

Thanks guys... I noticed that too, when you insert audio it inserts it into (and moves) a random track... weird.

Some of this is also discussed here: http://audiomastersforum.net/amforum/viewtopic.php?t=4814, I didn't get any explanation then, let's see if anyone can explain this time - seems like a pretty clear bug to me - hopefully it will be fixed in Service pack 1

That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about... very annoying.

Anybody got a fix??? (aka Steve G, what's up???).

For some reason, the mixdown will insert itself in a new track (like track #41) between tracks 2 and 3, or 3 and 4 (or whatever).  The new out-of-place track wil be about twice the width of the other tracks, for some reason as well.

I'm not even going to attempt to excuse this behaviour, because I think it's weird too. On the laptop, it's quite consistent - it always inserts the bounced-down track into the track immediately below the highest one a clip is selected in. And the numbers it gives the track seem to be consistent with low numbers of total tracks in your mix, but somewhat bizarre with high numbers of tracks (but see below). I've just done a 4-clip bounce that ended up on track 161!

With version 1.5, when you did this it would mix/bounce selected tracks down to next open track (like track 5 if mixing down 1,2,3 and 4).

Well, as I said above, with only 6 tracks open, a bounce down of 4 of them to a new track ended up on track seven (albeit in the wrong place...)

Anyone know why it takes an apparently random track (like 43) to mix/bounce to, and moves that track up between, say, tracks 3 and 4?  Is there something I'm missing?  Is this supposed to happen?

As I said, I'm not going to defend this at all - but I can offer a slight explanation of one thing, and that's about tracks in general. And this is all to do with the whole concept of what a track now is, because it has changed in one significant way. In AA2.0, a track doesn't really have a number at all - it simply has a label. There are an unlimited number of tracks available to use, and you can call them anything you like. Which means that the concept of an 'order' is sort-of irrelevant. Now, it may be that the naming convention actually has some relationship to this - but exactly what it might be is, to say the least, unclear. What I think that it might relate to is whether you have renamed any of your tracks with alphanumeric characters, but this would take some experimenting with to find out for sure.

And why the bounced track is positioned as it is remains a mystery. I would have thought that it made more sense to drop a bounce either after the last recorded track and before the busses/master, or immediately below the lowest track that has a selected clip in it - choose your poison.

So, I'd say that the names are irrelevant, but where the track gets placed isn't, and is a PITA as it stands. Incidentally, I think that the developers are aware of all this...

What I think that it might relate to is whether you have renamed any of your tracks with alphanumeric characters, but this would take some experimenting with to find out for sure.

As a postscript to the above, I checked elsewhere, and now I know what the mechanism is. It's all to do with the total number of tracks there have ever been in a session. If you have a session with 160 tracks in it, but you subsequently reduce this to a handful, any new tracks you apply to it will be numbered seqeuntially from 161. So my test above, which was performed on the theme tune session, gives you some sort of an idea of how much this had already been mixed down before making it into the software...

What I think that it might relate to is whether you have renamed any of your tracks with alphanumeric characters, but this would take some experimenting with to find out for sure.

As a postscript to the above, I checked elsewhere, and now I know what the mechanism is. It's all to do with the total number of tracks there have ever been in a session. If you have a session with 160 tracks in it, but you subsequently reduce this to a handful, any new tracks you apply to it will be numbered seqeuntially from 161. So my test above, which was performed on the theme tune session, gives you some sort of an idea of how much this had already been mixed down before making it into the software...

Goodness, it sounds like a counter is not getting reset somewhere - I hope it's big enough for the largest likely number of mixes (shades of Year 2000   )

Thanks for the replies, guys!

I do appreciate it... At least I know it's not just my rig.

If you want the bouncedown to appear directly beneath the last track you have to select the last track -- then the bouncedown will appear directly beneath it. Or..the bouncedowns will always appear beneath whichever track is selcted.