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bloodmoon32
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 Posted - Thu Jun 07, 2001 12:57 pm
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ok i have cool edit pro and i would like to know if there is a possible way of taking the vocals out of a song.2nd i would like to know if there is something special or something i am sapose to do when i record my vocals to make it sound more proffessional etc.
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RobertM
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Posted - Thu Jun 07, 2001 1:33 pm
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Hey Blood,
Well...we've all been struggling with the "taking out the vocals" topic for a little while now. Read the following thread and you'll get both some advice on how to do it, and lots of behind-the-topic context. Also, go to the search page and look for "vocal"; there's lots of additional information.
'how to remove vocal'
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post78
Location: USA
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Posted - Thu Jun 07, 2001 1:49 pm
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bloodmoon, I don't really work with taking vocals out of a pre-recorded mix so I can't help you on that one. However, mixing a great vocal track is tricky work but I can give a few starter tips. There are three main components to making or breaking a vocal. Compression, reverb, and e.q. (personal opinion) A lot of people try to add too much compression to vocals with the automatic assumption that more = better. This is obviously wrong. Try using a ratio of about 2 to 1 or, if the recording was sufficient, 1.5 to 1. If you need more, use caution. Remember also not to have the db rating set too low, or high for that matter. The best way to determine the correct db level is through trial and error. This should get you started with compression. When adding reverb, if needed, to the track, once again, less = more. I find that the presets offered in cool edit pro are a bit too much, but are a good place to start. Once again, it's best to just play around with it. BE SURE THAT THE "ENABLE UNDO" OPTION IS CHECKED!!! e.q. is another reason that the pros get paid big bucks. Be sure that you have a decent monitor setup to ensure that you are not doing dammage. The spectrum analizer is very useful in this field. I suggest asking the pros if you're serious about e.q. A quick tip is to try to roll off any frequencies below 50hz or 60hz. This will reduce hum and open up a little breathing room on the track. I hope this helped. enjoy
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NCG
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Posted - Thu Jun 07, 2001 2:03 pm
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ok i have cool edit pro and i would like to know if there is a possible way of taking the vocals out of a song.2nd i would like to know if there is something special or something i am sapose to do when i record my vocals to make it sound more proffessional etc.
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Man talk about a horse that will not die, this topic comes up at least every 3 days, so i will not go into that.LESS=MORE as stated by Post78 As far what you need to do to get your vocals to sound more "professional"-for starters you need a good voice (duh).Second you need a good mic like a large diaphram condenser to really capture your voice with accuracy.What i mean be accurate is that the mic doesnt add any coloration to the sound and if the mic is good enough youll get a sound that i like to call "what you sing is what you get".Okay after a good mic youll need something to record into (obiviously your already do)Do it can really depend on your soundcard capibilities.Having a decent mixer also helps as well,Mackie makes some good mixers for 300-500 range which is all most people ever need(i use Dual Mackie digital 8
bus mixers,and a 32 channel Ghost board with flying faders in my studio because recording makes up over a 1/3 of my income so I use good equipment to keep people coming back)
Basically its like this when I record vocals I like to make a few test runs with the client to establish a good foundation by running through some quiet passages followed by the loudest passages and trying to get as "hot" as a signal as possible without clipping.Depending on if the vocalist is booming and has a huge dynamic range or not ill set up a compressor starting at a ratio of 2:1 or 3:1 with as slow of a release as possible so that I dont damage the dynamics of the person singing(Sometimes I just run vocals straight without anything but a very light noise gate and then run the vocals through some outboard gear compression Or ill just not do anything to it depends on how even the person can sing, it really depends on the "feel" and style of the music.).On the subject of Eq.When you eq the frequencies you use in your vocals try not to use the same freguencies on everything and roll of the low end like mentioned in the above post-basically the reason WHY professional CDs sound good is because they know whats up with giving each instrument and voice its own sonic space.
Of course everything I said above is trivial cause I change it around,upside down all over the place sometimes-each person is different,as each voice is different as well- read around this forum along with surfing the net for recording tips or go buy a book on recording there is a wealth of information at your disposal. Hope that helps.
Edited by - NCG on 06/07/2001 2:10:24 PM
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