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« on: September 29, 2007, 05:19:21 PM »
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I want to know is there any DX plugins out there for adobe audition that has the effect of SRS WOW that window media player has? becuz all my songs that i play with window media player sound really good and full so i was wondering can that be done with a plug in so i can mix when using adobe audition. Thanks.
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« on: September 29, 2007, 09:49:43 PM »
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(Sigh!)

I've wasted my life! All those years spent working on things the hard way, and now I find out that all I really needed was SRS effects in Windows Media Player...

(...and learning spelling and grammar was all a waste too!)
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« on: September 30, 2007, 02:43:45 AM »
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wow.... i was asking is it possible or such things exist. i mean if window media player has it why wouldn't there be a plug in. ii dont know what your trying to do. maybe tryna be different? or want attention? anyways if you dont want to help then its cool
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« on: September 30, 2007, 03:01:27 AM »
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Here's the deal with SRS WOW, Q-Sound, and a few other "enhancement" effects.  It is basically messing with the stereo image by adding delay.  If you are listening to well recorded music on properly placed speakers you can get a good "image" and a very natural sound.

Turn on Q'SOUND or WOW and the image turns to mush, sounds are out of place, reverb effects are overblown, and it generally all sounds like crap.  Where it "works" is on small, crappy speakers that are too close together - laptop speakers, bad desktop setups, etc.

Many of us recording folks have acoustically treated spaces with carefully placed studio monitors and critical listening practices.  I don't think I'm speaking out of place if I say that most of us recording types have absolutely no use for such effects.  Thus the response from Phil.

That said, there is a stereo widening option in Audition.  I'm not sure what else SRS WOW does besides a simple widening, but I'd guess that the capabilities are in Audition if you know what you are looking for.  It isn't going to be on one button, because it's not a button anyone serious about this stuff would want.
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« on: September 30, 2007, 03:49:54 AM »
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Where I live, there is a TV commercial for a well-known office supply firm that runs often. It would have us believe that there is an "EASY" button for life's little problems. (insofar as whatever they sell is concerned.)

To reiterate what Karl has said, there is no "EASY" button for what we do. No doubt, somewhere, there is a plug-in which will do exactly what you want. (If, indeed, you know what it is that you want,) but I doubt that many of us are going to expend much energy searching it out. Audition will widen a stereo image and add delay, iZotope Ozone will also do it. We have such things at our disposal already, but their use shouldn't be overdone as "enhancement" effects are.

No, we do it the hard way. If you learn anything at all, remember this: "It ain't the gear, it's the ear!"

-Phil
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« on: September 30, 2007, 05:04:06 AM »
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Thanks guys.

Well I know there isn't a button that when you press it fixes everything.

Is it possible for me to produce professional effects track something like Sexy Back - Justin Timber lake With all the right EQ mixing and recording techniques and good equipments.

And also my ears are very young to these kind of stuff and wonder if i can send you a sample acapella and if you can tell me what effects were used. I know you guys might be wrong but your guess would be 10x better than my guesss. thanks
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« on: September 30, 2007, 05:34:16 AM »
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FYI,

'Sexy Back' was done using an Audio-Technica AT4060 into a PreSonus ADL600 preamp.  The preamp was followed by a Universal Audio 1176 limiter.

Nobody (including the engineer, Jimmy Douglass) knows exactly what was used for the distorted sound...Only that is was a massive effects chain.

But yes, with some creativity, you could get pretty close to that sound.

Emmett
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« on: October 01, 2007, 04:19:28 AM »
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"Staples Business Depot...that was Easy!"
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« on: October 01, 2007, 11:02:22 PM »
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"Staples Business Depot...that was Easy!"

They are in serious, debilitating denial and need therapy immediately.
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« on: October 01, 2007, 11:11:53 PM »
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"Staples Business Depot...that was Easy!"

They are in serious, debilitating denial and need therapy immediately.

LOL!
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« on: October 02, 2007, 04:00:34 AM »
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 According to my izotope newsletter the "sexy back" m-vox fx were helped by trash

 http://www.izotope.com/newsletters/2007_07/

Trash Brings Sexy Back
If you haven't heard Justin Timberlake's 2006 smash single "Sexyback" you've probably been living on a desert island with no exposure to pop culture. Next time it comes on the radio (probably 5 seconds from now) listen for iZotope Trash! Jimmy Douglass used Trash to get the smash hit's grimy vocals. Douglass had this to say in his interview in July's Sound On Sound:

"Justin said 'man, can you put some crazy effect on the vocal? Something crazy, like a distorted kind of thing.' So I put the Trash plug-in on it...just by using the plug-in the setting almost came up."


When you go to the soundonsound link , you dont get the full article unless you are a subscriber.

I recommend trash for fantastic tweaking ability in all aspects of distortion and amp simulation , incl tube and tape emulation.

For a cheap widening, bottom end tightening and sparkle  solution for your crappy speakers  try BBe sonic maximiser

http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/BBESonicMaximizer/default.asp

DEMO

http://www.cakewalk.com/download/download.asp?Action=DL&PID=130
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« on: October 02, 2007, 11:01:37 AM »
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f you haven't heard Justin Timberlake's 2006 smash single "Sexyback"
uh ... I haven't, and I'm OK with that.
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« on: October 02, 2007, 02:13:46 PM »
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How important is sonic quality in making a hit? For example, would Sexyback have failed to become a hit if it weren't for the thrash effect? I know it's a difficult question to address. 
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« on: October 02, 2007, 06:52:49 PM »
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I would say that in this context, it was very important.  The distortion is a part of the hook...It grabs attention...It almost sets the flavor of the whole song.
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« on: October 02, 2007, 08:03:43 PM »
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I would say that in this context, it was very important.  The distortion is a part of the hook...It grabs attention...It almost sets the flavor of the whole song.

You're right, my example was quite bad because with Sexyback the effect was used not to only enhance the sonic quality of the song, rather the effect was used in a creative manner to enhance the artistic quality of the song.

My question still stands though. What about overall. Take a song like Wicked Games by Chris Isaac as an example. Would it have been a hit if it was recorded using a different mic, etc.? Again, I know this is an almost impossible question to answer, but what is your best guess?
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