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« on: July 24, 2007, 02:02:48 AM »
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AA 2.0 HELP Files :
1) In Multitrack View, position the start-time indicator at the desired insertion point.
2) Choose Insert > Video, select an AVI, MPEG, QuickTime, or Windows Media file, and click Open.

AA 2.0
Insert > Video - no MPEG choice. How do we open mpg files?

AA 1.5
Opens .mpg files. Displays both audio and video tracks.

AA 2.0
Insert / Video / All Files: "The selected file does not contain video data,is not a supported video file format or the video codec required to open this file was not found."
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« on: July 24, 2007, 01:17:18 PM »
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or the video codec required to open this file was not found

First look for a bunch of video codecs to install on your PC. You could use one of these packs: CCCP (http://www.cccp-project.net/), FFD (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow), or K-Lite (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm). This will make sure you have the most commonly used codecs on your PC.

Then try again in AA2.
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« on: July 24, 2007, 06:02:54 PM »
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GSpot shows I already have the codec to open / rum .mpg files on my computer. How is it that AA 1.5 can do this but AA 2.0 can't. Different codecs? AA 2.0 is too strange.

Thanks / Will try installing codecs.......
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« on: July 24, 2007, 06:17:43 PM »
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Downloaded codecs - Why do I not have mpeg as a drop down choice when inserting video?

Buying AA 2.0 from Adobe store as a Download must be defective software!!!!
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« on: July 24, 2007, 06:45:34 PM »
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Downloaded codecs - Why do I not have mpeg as a drop down choice when inserting video?

Because Adobe is not required to provide you with video codecs for an audio application...

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Buying AA 2.0 from Adobe store as a Download must be defective software!!!!

I think that Adobe would regard customers who complained about this as defective... because it's not a reasonable stance to take. Adobe are no more obliged to provide you with every video codec known to mankind than they are to support every obscure audio format either. For audio software they do quite a good job, but why on earth should they have to bloat this software even more with video stuff that is essentially not a part of it?
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« on: July 25, 2007, 11:13:49 AM »
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AFAIAA You get the necessary codec if you have bought the whole Production package which, of course, contains the video and DVD software. Also, I think you may get the correct codec if you installed the beta of Soundbooth. Certainly you must do if you buy the full version that is available now since Soundbooth supports MPEG2 amongst it's file formats.
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« on: July 27, 2007, 01:04:58 PM »
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I seem to remember this coming up when 2.0 was first released. Apparently Adobe didn't include the codec with Audition due to licensing issues but it is included with Premiere so will be installed if you install the full production suite.

It is just one of the things that Adobe broke when they introduced version 2.

Cheers

James.
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« on: July 27, 2007, 01:42:01 PM »
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Apparently Adobe didn't include the codec with Audition due to licensing issues but it is included with Premiere so will be installed if you install the full production suite.

So it's not a licensing issue at all, then, is it? It's plain common sense to include the codecs appropriate for an application, and that's just what they've done.
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« on: July 27, 2007, 05:19:44 PM »
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Steve, Adobe is a big boy and there are times you do not need to defend them.  Times when it is better to just let someone vent.  & V2 has a lot (a lot) of ventable quirks.

While their/your logic on this issue might be impeccable, to long term clients, particularly those dependent on this issue's functionality, it still feels like marketing 'sleight of hand'

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« on: July 27, 2007, 07:57:13 PM »
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Steve, Adobe is a big boy and there are times you do not need to defend them.  Times when it is better to just let someone vent.  & V2 has a lot (a lot) of ventable quirks.

I'm not defending Adobe - just common sense. And I'm quite happy with the idea that AA2.0 has a long list of things that are seriously wrong with it - which is why I don't think people should attack it for the things that are in fact right  with it.

Because one of its problems is that it is already bloatware - and the idea of making that even worse for no reason is beyond any  logic...

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While their/your logic on this issue might be impeccable, to long term clients, particularly those dependent on this issue's functionality, it still feels like marketing 'sleight of hand'

In that case, these people clearly need a little help to see things in a perhaps slightly more realistic/logical light, don't they?  tongue


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« on: July 27, 2007, 11:28:13 PM »
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I'm not defending Adobe - just common sense.
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well, to an outside observer it looks like defense, while at the same time dancing precariously close to the edge of your nondisclosure beta-test agreement that you invoke so rigorously in other circumstances

All features any single individual does not use can be considered as 'bloat'

(as I do a fair amount of vid work I do not particularly want codecs to be installed by any application, while it's a pain in the ass it is much better approach to install, manage and upgrade that mess yourself.  But to do this one needs accurate information as to which version, sub-version a particular app can use . . . )

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While their/your logic on this issue might be impeccable, to long term clients, particularly those dependent on this issue's functionality, it still feels like marketing 'sleight of hand'

In that case, these people clearly need a little help to see things in a perhaps slightly more realistic/logical light, don't they?  tongue


Well, yet again that is not clear at all.  Except for perhaps you (And I'm only dropping you in the bin because my first impression is that you'd be OK with the idea that your decisions are rational, if you would prefer to think of yourself as irrational I apologize) I would guess very few individuals who stumble on this site got involved in audio work for anything resembling either logical or rational . . .

and while at some point understanding the chaos that is most home computer systems & how IT vendors operate is theoretically helpful . . . since in very many cases there is little one can do about anomalies . . .  relatively polite venting (in the situation: V1.5 works fine, V2 (for no reason I can understand, for no reason the vendor will provide) does not) is initially as useful as any rational response! 

It is possible that there is a 'rational' response to OP's issue that will resolve (other then using an earlier version) it . . . I didn't keep V2 up and running long enough sort through most this type of anomaly (and I had one of the codec works fine in V1.5 doesn't in V2 issues . . . even though I manage the codecs independently of any app, and had performed a clean install of OS on a scrubbed drive just for the V2 test) . . . on the other hand I can't think of very many dispassionate outside observers that would find much that is either logical or rational about marketing control of software development! 

can a rational response to irrational circumstance be entirely logical?
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« on: July 28, 2007, 12:03:47 AM »
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Where the whole computer industry has gone utterly wrong is the way that it is made so difficult and expensive to add codecs legitimately.

I appreciate that someone owns the copyright to a certain type of encoder that they have developed, but cannot see why, if there are bodies who declare that something is an industry standard, they can't make a pre-requisite of the declaration that there should be a simple way to access and buy the rights to use the codec.

I've tried to deal with licensing mp3 codecs, and it has been a complete shambles over the years. The result is that I would guess that 95% plus of the world (but not Adobe) is avoiding any sort of compliance with the strict letter of the licence.

If Adobe sells me a product that loads video files, but doesn't include some standard codecs, I would really like them to provide a list of recommended sources for codecs to be used, and arrange some sort of affordable deal. Not something like the nonsense that Fraunhofer's agents used to want - tens of thousands of dollars up front.
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« on: July 28, 2007, 12:19:30 AM »
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can a rational response to irrational circumstance be entirely logical?

You can't possibly expect me to come up with a sane answer to this, can you?   evil
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« on: July 29, 2007, 07:30:07 AM »
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I have mpeg capabilities after downloading codecs. Thank you. What I referred to as defective software: AA 2.0 HELP FILES clearly state there is a dropdown MPEG choice, yet in the AA 2.0 download file that I bought a license to there is no MPEG dropdown choice. To open MPEG, I must choose ALL SUPOPORTED FILES.

Help files say one thing. Actual software says another.

AA 2.0 HELP Files :
1) In Multitrack View, position the start-time indicator at the desired insertion point.
2) Choose Insert > Video, select an AVI, MPEG, QuickTime, or Windows Media file, and click Open.
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« on: July 29, 2007, 08:38:25 AM »
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Help files say one thing. Actual software says another.

That means that the help file is wrong, most likely because this part is copied one-on-one from the AA1.5 file, though the AA2 menu differs from the AA1.5 menu.

By the way, Liquid, I think you are one of the few AA users who know that there is a help file, and also use it!
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