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« on: August 01, 2006, 04:53:48 AM »
Bernhime Offline
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When recording a file in Edit view that is at least 20 minutes long, I've noticed something strange when I play the recording back. Every so often, at no specific interval, the recording will completely cut out. This happens very quickly -- in under a second.

When I view the file on Spectral view, there is literally a gap and nothing shows up on the screen.

I have plenty of RAM in my system, so I don't think it is getting overloaded. I am using an external USB drive as Audition's temporary. Could this be related to my problem?

I'm completely at a loss.

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Mike
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« on: August 01, 2006, 05:22:22 AM »

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I am using an external USB drive as Audition's temporary. Could this be related to my problem?

yes,...can be. ( i run miles from USB)
my old pc: athlon1.8, MB Soyo(from 2002) 512MbRam, win2K, 60Gb Maxtor(13,4Gb free), 40Gb Samsung(8,59Gb free)...i'm sure that my pc is older and slow than your pc.

today i did in audition 1.5:
whole cds (extracted as single waveform) "Off the Ground-Paul McCartney(50:25.200)" and "In Through The Out Door-L.Zep(42:34.360)" where:

from 44100-16 to 48000-32bit, lots of extractions,effects,etc,to get 5.1 tracks for each cd.
all this big group of tracks exported in multichannel encoder as 6-channel wave file.
was needed more than 30Gb of space used and adjust audition temp file to use 1.5Gb of each HD to get the final results.
i hear everything and all is OK,no clicks...etc!

regards.
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« on: August 01, 2006, 10:38:39 AM »
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Please ignore the above - it relates to 1.5, and that's completely different as far as recording is concerned, because it writes to temp files, and transfers the result afterwards.

Quote from: Bernhime
When recording a file in Edit view that is at least 20 minutes long, I've noticed something strange when I play the recording back. Every so often, at no specific interval, the recording will completely cut out. This happens very quickly -- in under a second.

When I view the file on Spectral view, there is literally a gap and nothing shows up on the screen.

Sounds as though you are recording onto the drive with the OS on it...

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I have plenty of RAM in my system, so I don't think it is getting overloaded. I am using an external USB drive as Audition's temporary. Could this be related to my problem?

The temp drive isn't invoked at all in recording. What may well work a lot better would be to use the external drive to record directly on to. On my laptop, the external USB drive outperforms the internal one quite comfortably, so unless you are trying to record a staggering number of tracks at once, which could be a problem anyway, I'd give this a go. You can reassign the temp folder to your C drive without any problem - it doesn't do anything whilst recording with 2.0, because 2.0 records direct to  the final file. What you want is a drive which won't be disturbed by anything to do with the OS, and your external one sounds like a much better bet than the C drive. Try it like that, and see if it's any different.
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« on: August 02, 2006, 06:16:31 AM »
Bernhime Offline
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Thanks Steve -- I'll give this a shot and let you know what happens.
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« on: August 03, 2006, 07:11:17 AM »
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Steve,

I thought I knew how configure Audition to record on my external USB drive, but I'm not figuring this out.

Could I trouble you for some guidance as to which menus I need to check out to make this change?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Mike
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« on: August 03, 2006, 08:33:22 AM »
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Edit/Preferences/System  Good Luck!  wink
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« on: August 03, 2006, 09:13:50 AM »
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Erm, what I missed somehow (my fault entirely) was that you are recording in EV. As far as I know, EV recording in AA2.0 still uses the temp file method (presumably still uses the OS to do it as well). It's only MV recording that is direct to file, although the help files don't actually mention this specifically; it's only implied in the heading "Direct to file recording in Multitrack View". The proof though, is that when you initiate recording in EV, it doesn't ask for a file name... this is only requested when you save.

But regardless of that, having the temp space on the drive with the OS on it isn't a good idea anyway, if it can be avoided. In many ways though, I think that doing all recording in MV now has a lot to commend it - certainly in terms of long recordings, simply because you remove the possibility of losing your entire recording if there'a a crash during the extended save at the end of it.
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« on: August 03, 2006, 12:15:08 PM »
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Errm, Steve, Mike says he has his temp file on the external drive, and not on the OS drive.

In a case like this I would want to try to diagnose what is going on, and would try running my old faithful Filemon from Sysinternals. Yes, I know looking at the results are gruelling and extremely time consuming, but it really is amazing what you find happening that you didn't know about, and anything is better than not being sure you will have a solid recording of something important.
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« on: August 03, 2006, 01:37:40 PM »
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Quote from: Wildduck
Errm, Steve, Mike says he has his temp file on the external drive, and not on the OS drive.

Hence my erm in the first place...
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« on: August 16, 2006, 01:58:36 PM »
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Ok, so I've confirmed that my TEMP file is on my external USB drive, but I'm still having a problem. I still have random recording gaps. AA is installed on my main USB drive where Windows XP lives.

Should I consider installing AA to one of my external drives?

Wildduck, you mentioned Filemon. I've never used this program before. Does it have a monster learning curve?

Open to any and all suggestions.

Regards,

Mike
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« on: August 20, 2006, 08:38:48 PM »
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ok I don't have an external to record to but I don't think that is my problem...I think mine is a setting somewhere I can't find but when I record everytime it adds a new section it pauses...any thoughts?
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« on: August 24, 2006, 10:04:17 PM »
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Anyone?Huh  smiley  smiley  smiley
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« on: August 24, 2006, 10:58:58 PM »
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Ooops, missed the question about Filemon a couple of posts back.

It has a learning curve, but it's manageable. What may not be manageable is the interpretation of the huge amount of data and getting used to using the filters intelligently to reduce the amount of data.

If you are into seriously diagnosing all sorts of computer and recording problems, the Sysinternals set of small applications are essential, so it's well worth the effort to try them out and learn how to use them.
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