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plook
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AndyH
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 Posted - Tue Jun 04, 2002 2:00 pm
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seems like either a bad joke or another attempt to get money out of the people who will pay any amount for anything labled "audiophile."
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resistor man
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Posted - Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:30 pm
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HAR!!! I wonder if the 5.1 has a tube section for each output... And what the heck is an audio grade capacitor, exactly? Thanks for a good laugh....
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Heavens to Betsy
Location: USA
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Posted - Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:07 pm
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I heard that it's "punchy," yet "warm." 
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vitaminman
Location: USA
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Posted - Tue Jun 04, 2002 9:44 pm
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I heard that its ad/da convertors are 'transparent'.
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EdRadio
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Posted - Tue Jun 04, 2002 10:20 pm
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Yeah, and the highs are "really warm" too, with just the right amount of saturation, all through the glory that is the AC97 v2.1.
Please. To quote the famous Arnold Drummond, "Whatchu talkin' bout, Willis?"
Nothin.
Did someone mention 'snake oil'?
Ed R.
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Mark T
Location: Norway
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Posted - Wed Jun 05, 2002 3:46 am
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OK guys,
Update via Norwegian IT net-news. The Product Manager at Aopen Al Peng is apparently a hi-fi freak and designed this card to give amazing sound for music and game nuts. Everyone (like us) laughed at the idea until they heard the results, which are apparently amazing - though it is expected to be sold as a gimmick for game nuts who want the utimate sound.
Still wierd though!
Mark 
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Havoc
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Posted - Wed Jun 05, 2002 4:38 am
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Who will be the first to sell heatsinks and fans for the tube? Never mind watercooling.
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SteveG
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Posted - Wed Jun 05, 2002 6:11 am
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OK guys,
Update via Norwegian IT net-news. The Product Manager at Aopen Al Peng is apparently a hi-fi freak and designed this card to give amazing sound for music and game nuts. Everyone (like us) laughed at the idea until they heard the results, which are apparently amazing - though it is expected to be sold as a gimmick for game nuts who want the utimate sound.
Still wierd though!
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Yeah, yeah...
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VoodooRadio
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Posted - Wed Jun 05, 2002 8:45 am
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"less filling..."
"taste great"
"less filling"
"taste great"........ Voodoo
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plook
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Mark T
Location: Norway
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Posted - Thu Jun 06, 2002 1:57 am
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Hey Plook,
That is just so funny! Even after what I read in the Norwegian press I still thought it was just a cheap gimmick. But these guys are serious! What about the heat output? They've upped the power levels to double standard, this board must fry eggs! What if a tube blows? And why the h*'ll build it onto a mobo, why not a breakout box so you can upgrade it etc etc?
Still it livens up a dull - bakingly hot and sunny Thursday
Mark
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SteveG
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted - Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:16 am
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I magnified the image as best I could to see if this was actually feasible. I think that as a design, it is seriously flawed anyway. Putting a capacitor that close to the envelope of the valve/tube isn't a good idea, and putting an uncreened valve/tube inside a PC, known to be, let's say, not the friendliest environment for radiated signals is also bad practice. And the HT generation - where's that? If you want any sort of a result out of a valve/tube, you need a minimum of 150v. HT supply. And quite frankly, I don't fancy having that around a mobo at all. And at best, this is a double-triode, which would give you two outputs. What about the other four? Funnily enough, I don't think the heat thing is much of a problem - mobos are quite often used as heatsinks for heat-generating components, and at least the device is off the board area, which is more than can be said for some of the regulators... and somewhere you need 6.3v @ 300mA for the heater - and it had better be DC as well (although it doesn't need to be), so that's a few watts more power you need, just to warm it up!
If you go back a page on the site, and try to find this mobo in their listing, you won't fine it. I wonder why? But surely the biggest joke of the lot is stuffing it on the end of an AC97 codec - or does it actually improve the sound quality???
I'm still inclined towards a jolly good leg-pull, aided and abetted by the Norweigan press!
I like valves/tubes. They give me a sort of warm glow...
Steve
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ozpeter
Location: Australia
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Posted - Thu Jun 06, 2002 5:34 am
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Reminds me of the hoax perpetrated on the old 'Tape Recorder' magazine in the 60's (oops, shows my age) when someone sent in a picture of a TV with two reels of tape on top and claimed to have invented the domestic VCR. In those pre-internet days of course you had to wait till the next month's issue to discover that you needn't have stuck the knife in the piggy bank after all....
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Zombie
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Twang
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Posted - Thu Jun 06, 2002 7:05 am
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Most resellers of AOpen boards learn quickly AOpen's RMA policy...
And now for something completely different, but the same:
" And once again, the mighty analog triumphs! Tube overdrive...from a Motherboard...hmmm. Build spring reverb in the thing, and I'll buy one.
I'm just a few sandwiches short of a penguin. "
To wit, the reply: "Hey, Linux guy-don't you guys build your own spring reverb out of old Ford springs and Microsoft CDROMS?"
- Twang
(At the bench designing a RCA Victrola for overclocking, cooled by a
1957 GE Space-Saving Refridgerator.)
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richardr
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Posted - Thu Jun 06, 2002 7:28 am
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...but this one goes up to eleven. All the other ones go up to ten. But this is one louder.
Hey where do I plug my guitar in?
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Zombie
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Posted - Thu Jun 06, 2002 8:04 am
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No kidding... I'm just waiting for Marshall to quit screwing around and make their tube motherboards... "It's fast, user-friendly, and there's a 'Cabinet Out' on the soundcard, compatible with celestion speakers(using celestion's noise removal interface software)
hehe,
Z.
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Havoc
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Posted - Thu Jun 06, 2002 8:44 am
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At some other forum (diy audio or homerecording), someone contacted its aopen dealer, and this one comfirmed availability of this mobo.
Nuts, utterly nuts.
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Syntrillium M.D.
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Posted - Thu Jun 06, 2002 9:03 am
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...At the bench designing a RCA Victrola for overclocking, cooled by a
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Yes, but does it support RCA Victrola-R, Victrola-RW, Victrola-A...and will it play on my Columbia player?
;)
Ah, what the heck....AC97's for everybody! (j/k)
---Syntrillium, M.D.
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resistor man
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Posted - Thu Jun 06, 2002 9:20 pm
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"We were all together late one night, kicking around lots of crazy ideas when I proposed it would be really cool if we could combine the warmth and depth – tonal realism, if you will – of the sound produced by an audio tube, with one of our state-of the-art motherboards" said Al Peng, product manager at AOpen America Inc.
I'll bet a large cloud of smoke issued forth when they opened the door after THIS conference...
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SteveG
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Posted - Fri Jun 07, 2002 4:22 am
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Oh, that sort of smoke...
AC 97... is this what you get when you get 3 Vox AC30's (like Brian May), join them together and tweak them a bit?
Steve
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VoodooRadio
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Posted - Fri Jun 07, 2002 7:12 am
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"AC 97... is this what you get when you get 3 Vox AC30's (like Brian May), join them together and tweak them a bit?"  I wish it were that easy to get Brian's sound. Good Luck Voodoo
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