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Broinker
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 Posted - Fri Aug 08, 2003 4:35 pm
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Does anybody have this mic? I heard it's like the best on-stage microphone, and can even outperform some condenser mics for recording.
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VoodooRadio
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Posted - Fri Aug 08, 2003 4:45 pm
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I have a pile of these mics! Yes, they are GOOD "live" mics. As for outperforming condensers.... I can't really go that far, but they are really good, durable mics. The Shure SM58's and SM57's have been around for along time and have been considered "Industry" standard mics. Why? Because they are good mics. 
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Broinker
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Posted - Fri Aug 08, 2003 5:02 pm
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Ya thanks for the reply, I just wanted to consult people here before I bought one to see if the rumours are true.
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motorhead6
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Posted - Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:35 pm
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I wont use anything but a Shure SM-57 on my guitar except maybe a 58 if thats all I had. I prefer a 58 for vocals but there isnt a whole lot of difference. Its just that I dont like singing into a 57 because it looks too much like a dick. Shure calls the 57 an instrument mic and the 58 a vocal mic but I dont think there is a whole lot of difference. I know there is a slight difference but not a lot.
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jester700
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Posted - Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:43 am
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| I wont use anything but a Shure SM-57 on my guitar except maybe a 58 if thats all I had. I prefer a 58 for vocals but there isnt a whole lot of difference. |
A lot of people agree. The main difference is that the 58's presence peak starts lower, so it's considerably boosted in the 3-4k area. This helps with vocal intelligibility. But on some voices, the 57 is actually better. Some might actually prefer the peak on the 58 for instruments, but I haven't met those people yet ;-)
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| Its just that I dont like singing into a 57 because it looks too much like a dick. Shure calls the 57 an instrument mic and the 58 a vocal mic but I dont think there is a whole lot of difference. I know there is a slight difference but not a lot. |
Never heard THAT one before. That's one mighty square dick... Actually, most mics (guitars, basses, drum sticks, wind/reed instruments) could be seen by Freudian wannabes as phallic symbols, so if sensitivity to this is an issue, music might not be the best career! "Sometimes a mic is JUST a mic..."
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jester700
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Posted - Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:50 am
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| Broinker wrote: |
| Does anybody have this mic? I heard it's like the best on-stage microphone, and can even outperform some condenser mics for recording. |
Very few people think an SM58 will outdo many large diaphragm condensors for studio vocals. There are probably a few voices that it matches well, but generally large diaphragm condensors are the accepted starting point (and can now be bought for the price of a 5 .
Now, there are some condensors that don't usually work great for voice recording - ultra flat alignment mics will be unflattering, and many cheap PC mics are condensors, so technically what you heard is true, but very misleading. On MOST voices in MOST rooms with MOST rigs, MOST large diaphragm condensor mics designed for vocal recording will outperform a 58. How's THAT for hedging? ;-)
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MusicConductor
Location: USA
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Posted - Sat Aug 09, 2003 10:03 pm
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We use a great many SM58s for vocals around here. (And some 57s on stuff like French Horns and guitar cabinets, etc.) It's very interesting that Shure has pulled from their spec sheet that the 3% distortion SPL for this mic is very low, relatively speaking, at around 96dB. We've regularly run into problems with this figure, particularly with female vocalists where the extra hash from the distortion is readily apparent (it's masked better with male voices). For a great grunge sound that low distortion figure can be a plus, IF grunge is what you need, which it's not in my case.
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bilyum
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Posted - Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:34 pm
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I sing and mike my guitar amp with SM57's. I think they're great.
As far as recording, I am a Novice at recording. But they're probably good for recording too.
My sound card is an ancient Soundblaster. 1 stereo line-in/1 stereo line out.
But for recording, there's only me. 1 track at a time.
I record my acoustic guitar thru my Dinosaer GSP21PRO. It seems to work fine.
Anyay, i am a huge fan of 57's
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