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jazzman
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Posted - Mon Jun 09, 2003 5:20 am
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Hello
Thanks in advance for your help
I wanted to know the easiest way to remove a word on CD song. My daughter is using a song for a school performance and the teacher wants to remove the word from the song.
Would appreciate any assistance
Dave
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VoodooRadio
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Posted - Mon Jun 09, 2003 5:29 am
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You won't be able to "isolate" the word and get rid of "just the word". You can go to that area of the song and highlight/silence, but it will silence ALL sound at that point.
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Craig Jackman
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Posted - Mon Jun 09, 2003 5:42 am
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Several things you can do ....
1 - Best way it to find an area of the song in the same key but without vocals. Matchup the beats and crossfade quickly out of the vocal section to the instrumental part that you've found, then crossfade quickly back once the offending word has passed.
2 - Highlight the offending word in Edit view. Use Effects/Reverse to flip the offending word. This keeps rhythm pretty much steady, and maintaings key.
3 - Highlight offending word in Edit view. Use Effects/Silence. That kills everything within the highlighted section.
4 - You can also bleep it out by using Generate/Tones. This replaces the highlighted word and music with whatever tone/tones you set in the Tones screen. Match the key to be marginally less noticeable.
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Gulliver
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Posted - Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:06 am
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What's the word? Just curious...
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VoodooRadio
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Posted - Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:24 am
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All the above are correct! However, it still remains... "You won't be able to "isolate" the word and get rid of "just the word".
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William Rose
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Posted - Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:50 am
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Gulliver wrote: |
What's the word? Just curious... |
Wait ! Lemme guess !
F***K ?
S**T ?
W***E ?
D**K ?
M**********R ?
C********R ?
A*****E ?
N****R ?
No wait, these days ? It's gotta be the ever popular - B***H .
Or more likely, it's street variation - BEo***!
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Gulliver
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Posted - Tue Jun 10, 2003 3:31 am
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Thanks!
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Craig Jackman
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Posted - Tue Jun 10, 2003 8:27 am
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VoodooRadio wrote: |
All the above are correct! However, it still remains... "You won't be able to "isolate" the word and get rid of "just the word".  |
True, you can't eliminate "just the word". Properly done however, using some of the above choices, you'll never know the word was there to begin with.
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AutoGhash
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Posted - Tue Jun 10, 2003 12:32 pm
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One more thing you could do (a variant of the generate tones tactic) is to highlight the word, and "mix paste" in a sound effect with a similar amplitude pattern. On hiphop songs this can often be accomplished with a little fake "turntable scratch."
That's often what music industry people do when they need to censor (like for the radio) and it's a good solution because sometimes the listener won't even know that a word is being censored.
Of course those people usually have access to the entire mix, so they can silence the word (and just the word) before they do it. Still, I'm confident that creative mixing after the fact could work.
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Pro_Support
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Posted - Wed Jun 11, 2003 12:04 pm
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I recently did a wedding reception mix and I had the same obstacle in one of the songs. I found that if I used the Frequency Band Splitter in the multitrack, I could isolate the frequencies with the voice and leave the higher and lower frequencies untouched. That resulted in the edit being much more subtle...
I was lucky and the word happened to be in the center of the stereo image, so I could remove almost all of it using vocal removal. Of course the results from that are were mono, so I did some crossfading from the original audio to the 'vocal-removed' audio so it wasn't so sudden and harsh. The extra frequencies from the Frequency Band Splitter technique also helped to maintain the stereo image.
The word was still barely noticeable (probably only to myself though), so I mixed it with a little garble (I think I reversed the word and EQ'd it aggressively) and the result was actually very good. The word wasn't absolutely gone, but nobody would be able to understand it.
I was so proud of myself that I was actually disappointed that nobody else noticed it. But I guess that was the intent, right?
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William Rose
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Posted - Wed Jun 11, 2003 2:05 pm
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Originally posted by Pro Support
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I was so proud of myself that I was actually disappointed that nobody else noticed it. |
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Craig Jackman
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Posted - Thu Jun 12, 2003 6:18 am
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Pro_Support wrote: |
I found that if I used the Frequency Band Splitter in the multitrack, I could isolate the frequencies with the voice and leave the higher and lower frequencies untouched. That resulted in the edit being much more subtle... |
When my boss asks, the answer is THAT kind of response is why I spend time on this forum. What a great and relatively invisible solution! Wish I'd thought of it myself. For bleeping records for alternative rock station this will be invaluable.
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