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Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Sun Apr 27, 2003 10:37 pm  I want to apply a plugin effect while doing a batch conversion. How do I do this? It would take me hours to do it manually, so can it be done an easier way? _________________ Death By Stereo!!
post78 Location: USA Posts: 2887	Posted - Sun Apr 27, 2003 10:44 pm  _________________ Answer = 1. Probably.
Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:07 pm  Noooooooooooo! I was looking for action like in Photoshop, and I didn't know script was the same thing. This could have saved me months of hard work! Good thing I started over:P Ok, if I have Cool Edit set to open the files in 32-bit, would that be applied into the script batch automatically, or would I have to do the 32- bit conversion action while recording the script? And while saving, will it be saved back to a 16-bit file so that my comp HDD doesn't overflow?? _________________ Death By Stereo!!
Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:44 pm  Don't bother answering. The stupid thing want's me to OK every action I selected. So I guess I'm going to have to do this manually. Oh goodie!>:K _________________ Death By Stereo!!
post78 Location: USA Posts: 2887	Posted - Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:55 pm  It's not as stupid as you think. Uncheck "pause at dialogs". _________________ Answer = 1. Probably.
Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Mon Apr 28, 2003 12:04 am  It was the plugin. When I would open it, it didn't open the program GUI, just the preset. I fixed it. I had to open the plugin twice before I could start the recording. Thanks! _________________ Death By Stereo!!
Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Mon Apr 28, 2003 12:53 am  Now I get a stupid error after four conversions. _________________ Death By Stereo!!
Mark T Location: Norway Posts: 890	Posted - Mon Apr 28, 2003 1:09 am  Plastic, I think you need to slow down just a little;) - if you read your sequence of posts it looks like you could have sorted out most of your questions by just reading the help information or trying a few things. You really will learn this best by reading the information provided first(and searching the forum). Everyone's happy to help if you're still stuck after that! _________________ Mark nil desperandum - nunc est bibendum
Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Mon Apr 28, 2003 1:24 am  Ok, here's what I do. -Open Cool Edit Pro 2. -Open wave form. (all waves are opened as 32-bit) -Select script and batch processing. -Open new script. -Create title and record. -Apply DSP-FX 6.2 Aural Activator -Apply Normalizer in DB format -Apply Normalizer in percent format -Apply Convert to 16-Bit -Stop and save recording. Then I close the opened wave form and run the batch. I about 200+ files and then run. After about 4 conversions, I get an error and the program closes. I don't know if it partially converted the file or what, so I have to restore the originals just in case. I don't know why I get an error, but it's really peving me off! I even did an update of CE. Maybe I'm doing to many actions? I don't know anymore. _________________ Death By Stereo!!
post78 Location: USA Posts: 2887	Posted - Mon Apr 28, 2003 3:02 am  Strange... I honestly don't know why this is happening. Since you say that the program closes, I assume the error you're referring to is the "illegal operation...will be shut down" error? Anyway, and a little off point, one thing did catch my eye: Quote: -Apply Normalizer in DB format -Apply Normalizer in percent format Why are you normalizing twice? You should just choose one and go with it. _________________ Answer = 1. Probably.
Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:46 am  Yeah, it's an illegal op. I'm using XP and it asks me to send an error report. The reason why I use two normalizers is because some songs will be clipped when I apply the effect, and some songs will have room for a volume increase. Not know which songs will be like this when batch converting, I use both. Unless one of them will do both, I would like to know. Would the percent normalizer bring down the volume if the wave form is clipped? This could be the cause of the error, however, the error ocurrs just after the 4th file is saved. I'm batch converting 3 at a time. It's a pain, but what else can I do? I updated my CE to see if that will fix it, but it did nothing. I no longer have my CE 2000 because I sold it. Not sure what the cause is. Maybe someone who has DSP-FX could send me a script file that would do what I'm trying to do. Maybe I'm doing something wrong when making the script?? I have no clue! _________________ Death By Stereo!!
Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:10 am  I tried is with one normalize, and the same thing happens just after the 4th file is saved. How annoying! _________________ Death By Stereo!!
younglove Posts: 314	Posted - Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:13 am  Try opening the fifth file in Cool Edit. Will it open? Try excluding the fourth and fifth files from the list of files to batch. Will it do more files?
Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Mon Apr 28, 2003 4:53 pm  Doesn't matter which files I do; one it converts 4 files anywhere in my collection, it will give an illegal op. I have the error report if anyone wants to look at it?? _________________ Death By Stereo!!
Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Thu May 01, 2003 4:20 am  Well I fixed the problem I was having. I had the Disable Undo box unchecked. I unchecked it thinking it was the opposite without fully realizing what I just did. Seems that the problem would happen just when CE is trying to close a file. I also update Direct X and my sound drivers, but I'm certain that it's not those because I remember vividly that one of the two boxes were checked, and that was only to overwrite existing files. I am such a putz! Hopefully this will help someone else out who may encounter the same or a similar problem. _________________ Death By Stereo!!
post78 Location: USA Posts: 2887	Posted - Thu May 01, 2003 1:37 pm  Quote: The reason why I use two normalizers is because some songs will be clipped when I apply the effect, and some songs will have room for a volume increase. That's what you use percent for. It doesn't matter what level the file was at prior to normalization, setting the value as percent will raise them all up to the same level. 100% is full scale, 0% is -infinity. IOW, just use the percent normalizer. _________________ Answer = 1. Probably.
SteveG Location: United Kingdom Posts: 6695	Posted - Thu May 01, 2003 1:57 pm  post78 wrote: Quote: The reason why I use two normalizers is because some songs will be clipped when I apply the effect, and some songs will have room for a volume increase. That's what you use percent for. It doesn't matter what level the file was at prior to normalization, setting the value as percent will raise them all up to the same level. 100% is full scale, 0% is -infinity. IOW, just use the percent normalizer. Er, actually, it's just a labelling difference. The operation is identical whatever labelling system you use. 100% = 0dB, -3dB = 70.79% All you are doing is altering the format, not the operation. And if you have 32-bit files, you can put stupid normalising numbers in, and still recover perfectly, even if you've saved the file. If you normalise to +75dB, you will get a solid block of green on the display, but if you renormalise back to 0dB, your file will come back fine. Applying the normaliser twice in succession is a completely redundant step in this script. _________________
post78 Location: USA Posts: 2887	Posted - Thu May 01, 2003 2:33 pm  Quote: Er, actually, it's just a labelling difference. The operation is identical whatever labelling system you use. 100% = 0dB, -3dB = 70.79% All you are doing is altering the format, not the operation. You're right; percent and dB function the same way. For some reason I was combining the percent function in "normalize" with the dB function in "amplify". Still, as we've both said, there's no point in using both. No matter the current amplitude of each file, they will all end up at the same levels using one setting. _________________ Answer = 1. Probably.
Plasticman Posts: 119	Posted - Thu May 01, 2003 6:28 pm  Question: If I left my files at a high DB rate, would they be distorted if I save them as 32-bit?? _________________ Death By Stereo!!
post78 Location: USA Posts: 2887	Posted - Thu May 01, 2003 9:30 pm  If you went over 0 dBFS, than playback would be distorted. Even though the file would be perfectly intact, your DAC would not be able to handle those levels. However, you can normalize the file to below full scale and all would be fine. _________________ Answer = 1. Probably.
post78 Location: USA Posts: 2887	Posted - Thu May 01, 2003 9:33 pm  I read your question again, and perhaps this is more what you wanted to know: As long as your file is 32-bit float, you can amplify the signal to well over 0 dBFS, save, close, open, and normalize back to real levels. The signal would be fine. Experiment. _________________ Answer = 1. Probably.
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