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prophet69





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Post Posted - Wed Apr 11, 2001 11:40 am 

I've tryed doing this just by using the microphone and recording from the actual mp3 into CEP but it's hard to get the same sound quality.
Does anyone here know if there is another way (or program) to convert an MP3 into a WAV format without losing any of the quality?
thanks,

warner brown,

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jonrose


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Post Posted - Wed Apr 11, 2001 12:09 pm 

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I've tryed doing this just by using the microphone and recording from the actual mp3 into CEP but it's hard to get the same sound quality.
Does anyone here know if there is another way (or program) to convert an MP3 into a WAV format without losing any of the quality?


Hello,

I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to do with the microphone, but if you mean you're playing back the mp3 and trying to re-record it, then I can certainly see why it would be a problem...

My question to _you_ would be this:

Why can't you just open the mp3 with CEP and resave it as a wav file?

Seems to be the simplest solution.

All the best... -Jon

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prophet69





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Post Posted - Wed Apr 11, 2001 12:43 pm 

yeau, I was trying to playback the mp3 and re-record it. And the problem is, when i try to open an mp3 file in CEP 1.2, it only reads as an ocean of white noise static.

warner,

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jonrose


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Post Posted - Wed Apr 11, 2001 12:59 pm 

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yeau, I was trying to playback the mp3 and re-record it. And the problem is, when i try to open an mp3 file in CEP 1.2, it only reads as an ocean of white noise static.


I guess my next question would be whether or not you initially created the mp3 file, and with what, at what bit-rate, etc...

I don't often use mp3 as input for projects, unless it is something that can be tolerated as lo-fi anyway, but on the other hand, I don't ever recall not being able to load any mp3's into CEP, either.
I suppose there may be some formats not dealt with by CEP as well as others, or a possible file-corruption issue that it can't deal with.
I'm really only speculating here, so don't take any of this too seriously - I'm sure there are many other folks here from whom you may be able to obtain much better information!

All the best... -Jon
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finetunes





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Post Posted - Wed Apr 11, 2001 10:23 pm 

Use Winamp for converting mp3 to wav. Open preferences, select plugins/output/disk writer - it will prompt you for a folder to save the wav file. Close it up, open the mp3 in winamp as usual and play it. It will convert the file at that point. After you are finished converting, don't forget to go back into preferences and open the waveout plugin to reset winamp to play mp3's instead of converting!!
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beetle


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Post Posted - Thu Apr 12, 2001 9:09 am 

Prophet, you need an mp3 plug-in for CEP 1.2.
If you have this you can do it all in CEP.

Cool Edit 2000 has built in support for mp3.

Jon is right! Just open the mp3 in Cool Edit with the mp3 support and save it as Windows PCM wav.

Otherwise, use another program to do it.

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Proteus





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Post Posted - Thu Apr 26, 2001 4:01 am 

I have always used winamp for expanding an Mp3 to a Wav...even before Cool Edit existed ;)

The process is easy as finetunes describes and you can configure were you want the wav files to be stored (Creating a seperate folder just for this purpose is handy)

A benefit of using Winamp is that you can batch process your Mp3 files, in other words make a playlist of your tracks then decode them all out to wav at once)

This process is quick and efficient, also comes in handy if you want to burn your tracks straight to CD Audio (wav burns straight to CD Audio)

Hope ths helps ;P
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oak415





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Post Posted - Tue Aug 21, 2001 8:44 am 

hey prophet69 - SIMPLIFLY - that's all we want isn't it? Someday, soon Windows will know exactly what we want. But for now... Definitely get that mp3 plugin. Then, all you have to do is
"drag-n-drop" the .mp3 files directly onto Cool Edit.
That's it boss, you take it from here.
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prophet69





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Post Posted - Tue Aug 21, 2001 8:21 pm 

whoa bump from the past! i've actually since been using "musicmatch jukebox" to convert files, mp3 to wav, wav to mp3. It works perfectly, so that saves money on the mp3 plugin, but thanks anyway.

warner,

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Craig Jackman


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Post Posted - Wed Aug 22, 2001 8:34 am 

I always use the Syntrillium MP3 filter for CEP. The Fraunhofer codec sounds much better (to my ears) than the Blade codec I see everywhere else, plus the CEP filter is 8 times faster in conversion on my machine.

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JANK





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Post Posted - Thu Aug 23, 2001 6:20 am 

I have found some MP3s that show up as RAW headerless and display as bars of white noise. Other MP3s convert fine. I have found the wave editor (anybody done some comparisons yet with CEP?) in Nero DOES see these RAW MP3s ok and it will convert them ok... Any one know what's the deal?

Q#2: Is there any thing "wrong" with editing an MP3 file or is it better to convert to WAV first??? (I have done it both ways whether by early efforts or by forgetting my editing sequence AND I NEVER HAVE HEARD ANY DIFF - help?)
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Rivergoat





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Post Posted - Thu Aug 23, 2001 6:44 am 

It seems that if the mp3 was saved as RAW headerless, it will not open, even with an mp3 filter in CE or CEP; you just get that white noise problem. In CEP you need to save the mp3 "include non-audio portions" (or whatever the exact phrase is on the check box). This insures it will not be headerless.

I've had the same trouble myself with some files. Are you saying Winamp will open them and take care of the problem? I stoppped using Winamp some time ago, too many programs floating on the drive *Smile I've heard of Nero, but never tried it. A friend has it and I imagine I'll get around to seeing it work and deciding from there....
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Syntrillium M.D.


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Post Posted - Thu Aug 23, 2001 8:58 am 

Hello Jank. Regarding your 'conversion' question...

When you open any compressed audio file format, Cool Edit de-compresses the file and when you're looking at it and working on it in Cool Edit, it is essentially raw pcm data. Once you re-save it (whether to Mp3, RealMedia, or whatever) this is where you are essentially re-compressing, as in the case of encoding back to MP3, which will result in some fidelity degredation - but how audible it is depends on how and what rate it was encoded to in the first place, not to mention your playback system.

Of course, saving to WinPCM wave is leaving the file uncompressed, and won't introduce any more 'lossy compression' artifacts to the file.

---Syntrillium, M.D.

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Rivergoat





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Post Posted - Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:44 am 

Ah, and re-reading older posts on a different thread, yet basically on the same topic, it is stated that the "save extra non-audio information" checkbox will not make a difference as far as headers are concerned. M.D. posted a very response about that. It seems in agreement that using something like WinAmp to open it, then re-save as a .wav is the viable solution....
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regger6





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Post Posted - Sat Sep 01, 2001 2:50 pm 

another way is to go to monkeysaudio.com and get the free download, this will let you convert mp3, ogg, ape and others to wave format, a plus is when you're done with the mp3, compress it as an ape file and you won't lose any quality; since ape files use lossless compression thats about half the size of the wave.
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FDS





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Post Posted - Tue Sep 04, 2001 4:41 am 

Hi , all

i just want to now how to comvert wav
to mp3 i have the 1.2a and i need to send
some mp3 by email.


Thanks.
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2Bdecided





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Post Posted - Tue Sep 04, 2001 6:38 am 

wav > mp3 is called encoding. You either need the mp3-me plug-in for CEP, available from Synt, or an external mp3 encoder - see here:
http://www.r3mix.net/
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FDS





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Post Posted - Tue Sep 04, 2001 10:43 pm 

Thank you very much.
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