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seanbaker
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 Posted - Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:22 pm
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This question is for anyone with a multiple input sound card.
1. I am first of all looking for any recommendations on any multi-track sound cards that have mulitple audio inputs. I have seen many that claim to be multi-track and do have multiple inputs, but you still have to premix all the inputs to one audio source before they go into you program.
2. Second, does CEP in multitrack view have the capability of recording from different inputs on one single card at once? I know the red "1" button allows you to configure each track to a seperate sound card if you have multiple cards, but if I spend the money to get a multi-input card, will that option allow me to assign each track to a seperate input on the same card? I know Cakewalk does, but I am hoping this will work in CEP too since it is so far superior. :)
Thanks for any advice,
Sean Baker the Music Maker
http://www.seanbaker.com
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Syntrillium M.D.
Location: USA
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Posted - Mon Feb 12, 2001 10:52 am
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Hi Sean. As far as recommendations, well, we don't really like to give these because we don't know your specific needs. But I can tell you that our users highly recommend the Echo line (makers of Layla, Gina, etc) and the Delta series (1010, 66, Dio) as well as Frontier Designs (dakota, sierra).
As far as being able to assign each track to separate inputs, you can absolutely do this in CEP.
---Syntrillium Support
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seanbaker
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Posted - Mon Feb 12, 2001 2:10 pm
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| our users highly recommend the Echo line (makers of Layla, Gina, etc) and the Delta series (1010, 66, Dio) as well as Frontier Designs (dakota, sierra). |
Do you know these company's websites?
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| As far as being able to assign each track to separate inputs, you can absolutely do this in CEP. |
Oh, happy day. Thanks. Now I can record my digital piano and a vocal at the same time with only one sound card....
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Syntrillium M.D.
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seanbaker
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Posted - Mon Feb 12, 2001 8:57 pm
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I have visited these sites, but now I have more questions for anyone who has any of these. I only have a single input card right now but plan to upgrade. I see a lot of cards that have for example 2 inputs, but 8 outputs. Why are there more outputs than inputs? I'm asuming this doesn't limit how many multiple tracks CEP can playback, since my single input card can playback unlimited tracks. Are these outputs for the purpose of integrating with a real mixing board? I'm confused now. All I want to do is have a few more inputs so I can record many instruments simultaneously and to seperate tracks and have the vocalist monitored through reverb, but still record it dry. Anyone with the setup I'm after? Please advise.... 
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John D
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Posted - Thu Feb 22, 2001 2:48 pm
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Delta 1010 is GREATThis question is for anyone with a multiple input sound card.
1. I am first of all looking for any recommendations on any multi-track sound cards that have mulitple audio inputs. I have seen many that claim to be multi-track and do have multiple inputs, but you still have to premix all the inputs to one audio source before they go into you program.
2. Second, does CEP in multitrack view have the capability of recording from different inputs on one single card at once? I know the red "1" button allows you to configure each track to a seperate sound card if you have multiple cards, but if I spend the money to get a multi-input card, will that option allow me to assign each track to a seperate input on the same card? I know Cakewalk does, but I am hoping this will work in CEP too since it is so far superior. :)
Thanks for any advice,
Sean Baker the Music Maker
http://www.seanbaker.com[/quote]
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joele552
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Posted - Sat Feb 24, 2001 3:11 am
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CEP is great at being able to use different sound cards together. Especially those with multiple in & outs.
My Peticular setup has three different cards in it. A Layla, a Soundblaster Live, and a ADAT-PCR card. The Layla and the Live card have been coexisting for a while now, before that it was Gina.
CEP under multitrack has a setting under options that allows you to include or exclude, if you want, your preferential devices. Just as in the two track view you can pick which input & output to use in the devices tab. Usually in stereo Pairs.
Then in the Multitrack view you can then click each tracks' record and play buttons and assign whatever device, or devices channel.
My Choices run something like this:
Input Output
1: Live input 1: Live Output
2: ADATPCR 1/2 2: ADATPCR 1/2
3: " 3/4 3: " 3/4
4: 5/6 4: 5/6
5: 7/8 5: 7/8
6:Layla 1/2 6: Layla 1/2
7: 3/4 7: 3/4
8: 5/6 8: 5/6
9: 7/8 9: 7/8
For input You can then assign the channel as Left, Right, or Stereo.
On playback The Pan control sends the output to the selected channels' output to either or both of the stereo pair.
BTW, Multi-outs can be used to send to outboard effects, then back, or to different Output devices, ie.Monitor sets, Headphone amps, Analogue recorders etc.
Layla also has a s/pdif in & out to keep sounds in the digital realm if necessary.
Hope this gives you a better understand of how CEP I/O works.
Joel E. Norwood
Musician, Home Hobbyist, AIA Graduate.
P.S. Can't wait for CEP 2.0 either. Go Synt.
Need possible connect to midi-control surfaces such as Peavey - StudioMix.
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Craig Jackman
Location: Canada
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Posted - Fri Mar 02, 2001 8:15 am
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My Frontier Designs WaveCenter card is great. 8 in/8 out on ADAT, plus an ADAT thru port and SPDIF. Analog conversion using the TANGO outboard convertor. As idiot proof as possible.
It's hooked up to an 8-bus board so I can record up to 10 different sources, and playback through 10 different channels. Or thru 2 if that's what you really want. Completely flexable.
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jfloyd
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Posted - Wed Mar 14, 2001 11:59 am
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Sean,
Noone has mentioned this board yet, but I use it and it is VERY NICE! Mark of the Unicorn makes various multiple in/out boards. I use three 1224's which each have 8in and 8out ports - this gives me up to 24 tracks of simultaneous input and we (my band) regularly record up to 18 tracks at the same time in recording sessions. These three 8 channel boxes are rack mountable and communicate with a single PCI bus board which works flawlessly with CEP 1.2a. Just thought I would throw that in...
John
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petimar
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Posted - Wed Mar 14, 2001 1:41 pm
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MOTU's support is terrible. Don't buy from them.
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johnschultheiss
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Posted - Thu Mar 15, 2001 10:29 am
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Hey:
I use CEP and the Delta 66, and it works great. You can save a couple dollars and get the 44 instead of the 66 if you don't need SPDIF inputs. You get 4 simultaneous, independent inputs and 4 outputs. Or, you could spend a little more and get the 1010. Personally, I'd go with the 66, and add a 44 later if you need more ins/outs. I've also used the older Echo Gina card and had good results. I'm sure their new stuff is equally good.
Why more outputs than inputs? If you're getting fancy and running tracks out for monitoring, real-time effects processing, etc. you can run out of outputs. For me, this hasn't been a problem.
CEP does a great job of using multiple inputs on a single card, using multiple cards with multiple inputs, etc.
-- John Schultheiss
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jfloyd
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Posted - Thu Mar 15, 2001 12:01 pm
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Petimar,
You are right about MOTU's support sucking - they really are the worst but I have managed quite nicely without them, thank you....
Syntrillium support ROCKS!
John Floyd
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