Re Amp sim in AA3.0 is it by izotope ?

 If its not covered by the NDA ( gotta love corporate bullshit that slows down product evolution ) could someone pls tell me if the new amp sim in AA3.0 is made by izotope, i am guessing yes as they already have a deal with izotope .

Thanks

The chances are that if iZotope had a hand in it, that fact would be in the press release - if you see what I mean...

( gotta love corporate bullshit that slows down product evolution )

The main purpose of an NDA is to slow down product evolution in its competitors - and since Audition is often an innovative product from that POV, this is significant.

The main purpose of an NDA is to slow down product evolution in its competitors - and since Audition is often an innovative product from that POV, this is significant.

 Yes, i well understand the reasoning I am just having an anarchic day at the races. By slowing down the response time of the competition it slows down the evolution and, well, you we all get the gist

 But thanks for answering my q, its a shame because iZotope's trash is very very good.

I guess I too quickly evaluated their amp simulators, I didn't think they sounded good at all

I just quickly tried the Audition guitar suite in conjunction with Suburban Guitarist, and got some interesting results just flipping around the presets.  The immediate free competitor would appear to be "Freeamp 2" VST amp/cabinet sim,  which has loads of great presets and a very sexy graphic interface.

BTW - try VSTi pianos and the like through such amp simulators - you don't have to start with a guitar.

I've managed to simplify my life by avoiding VSTi stuff so far, but now that I've got a VSTi-frendy application, I'm ready to explore.  I know it's a huge question, but for making and recording music and mixing, what VSTi stuff do you really like and use a lot?

Oh, geez - sorry.  That thread has already started here:

http://audiomastersforum.net/amforum/index.php/topic,6551.0.html

 

Native Instruments Guitar Rig 2 is the sweetest plugin for guitar amp stuff i have used. It has emulation for just about any existing type of amp that is around, plus the ability for you to make up and save your own setups. It has all of the big manufacturer's amps without their names on it. Good stuff.

Native Instruments Guitar Rig 2 is the sweetest plugin for guitar amp stuff i have used. It has emulation for just about any existing type of amp that is around, plus the ability for you to make up and save your own setups. It has all of the big manufacturer's amps without their names on it. Good stuff.

Have a try with Amplitube 2 and the Jimi Hendrix edition - there are a lot of very nice classic amps and effects and the Jimi Hendrix setup is fantastic! They are a bit more raw than GR2/3 but perfect for my taste and, IMHO, a bit more accurate.

Have a try with Amplitube 2 and the Jimi Hendrix edition - there are a lot of very nice classic amps and effects and the Jimi Hendrix setup is fantastic! They are a bit more raw than GR2/3 but perfect for my taste and, IMHO, a bit more accurate.

I suppose i can't speak for Amplitube. I'll have to give it a shot sometime. But the accuracy of GA2 is pretty amazing. I use it on virtually all direct recorded guitar tracks in most of my recordings and it sounds about as live recorded as it can IMO. And the control over how the guitar sounds in the mix is insanely helpful. I have a fender amp and a marshall jmp, and i still record directly and just use the VST for Guitar Amp 2 over those just because of the ability to change and control the sound.

Sorry but I just plug in my old Zoom 9030 or my newer Boss GT6. The beauty of this is I can take the units in a small case to practice with the mate's but I've problems jacking the garage up to take it round there

That's a good idea, as long as you are getting the sounds you want in both locations. If you're only recording with your friends, then you'd be all set. These other things have a crazy amount of variance available that most hardware doesn't hold. Not to mention, once you record your track, you can't change the drive level of your distortion without re-recording the track in your case. This way you can change what amp you're using over and over again until you are satisfied, without having to re-record anything!

I found ALL guitar sim gear sounded shit initially anyway. I do think Guitar Rig 2 is awesome for bass but not guitar. There is so much digital sound regardless of what it's simulating. Nothing like micing up the cab for me.

 Has anyone ever heard of any blind study done where participants were asked to guess which tone ( mic'd  vs simulator ) came from where ? I would be greatly surprised if the tone purists had an even close to 50 % accuracy rating.

Izotope trash ROCKS if you  use the presets as a starter then change the cabs. It has multiband pre-amp and power amp distortion. 

 Would love to see a blind study done.