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« on: April 13, 2010, 05:17:58 PM »
Don Giovanni Offline
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Hello I really enjoy some of the reprocessed jazz recordings by Robert Parker (1936-2004) which rework mono originals into fake stereo and re-EQ them to make them sound more modern. It isn't a sound liked by purists but I find it really enjoyable and lively. I suppose the closest parallel I can think of is that of the reverb-heavy Nimbus records (notably recitals by classic opera singers such as Enrico Caruso and Nellie Melba) which I enjoy but have, like Parker's ventures, been met with some derision from purists.

The series "Jazz Classics in Stereo" is streamed here: http://www.lagniappe.la/whoshotparker.asp
This is Parker's website: http://www.robertparkerjazz.com/
There is a link here to a video of Parker in his studio restoring Jelly Roll Morton in 2001 using a combination of digital noise removal and analog filters: http://www.stefansargent.com/movie_menu.html

Can anyone suggest how to recreate the sound Parker achieved using Cool Edit/Adobe Audition? Both Nimbus (which uses a turntable attached to a great big horn and rerecords the result in studio conditions) and Parker (who used analog filters and EQ) use analog equipment which seems quite difficult (to a novice like me) to recreate in the digital domain.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated on what sort of tools and settings would recreate the sort of enhancement which I enjoy so much.

Thanks
All the best

David
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« on: April 13, 2010, 07:40:49 PM »
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reverb-heavy Nimbus records

Remember that all Nimbus recordings past and present are made in ambisonic surround, which is then folded into stereo using a matrix technique known as UHJ.  This is not done simply theoretically - they monitor in surround even on location recording sessions (though they check compatibility as well).  The reverb is entirely natural when spread all round you by playing back through a UHJ decoder, but rather generous when it all appears in front.  If they moved the microphone closer to reduce the reverberation relative to the source, then the surround mix would be too close.

Sadly, UHJ decoders are hard to come by...  If you want hardware, you have to pay the price to get something from Meridian, but if you have a setup that can play through a computer, you can do the decoding there using free software.

Paul
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« on: April 13, 2010, 08:15:51 PM »
Don Giovanni Offline
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How interesting regarding the Nimbus sets - I generally like the reverb but I can imagine the result using UHJ decoders as you described would be more natural sounding. Thank you for the info Paul!

I have actually come to prefer in many cases their reverberant sound, compared to the more 'authentic' sound on, say, Naxos, as it makes singers sound a little larger than life and exciting. After a few minutes of listening I find I can enjoy and am drawn into the performances more quickly - I must be more distracted by the hiss and crackle than I realised.

It is this same quality, of 'enjoying the performance' as opposed to 'listening to a recording' which I enjoy most about listening to Robert Parker's Jazz records. I find myself engaging with the singers and the songs to a greater extent as a result of Parker's techniques, as with Nimbus, than is the case with drier and acoustically dead transfers (even if they are more 'authentic').

David
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« on: April 15, 2010, 01:37:23 PM »
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Reading other posts I realise I am probably not asking specific enough questions- I am really asking for any tips or ideas re reverb settings/ eq changes / techniques re Noise reduction which help to get the warm pseudo-stereo 'enhanced' sound like Parker using Cool Edit Pro - I have tried and the sound too often sounds 'flat' or the reverb sounds really fake when I try it.

David
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