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Reply #75
« on: January 04, 2008, 09:22:48 AM »
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Wow! Having all the blame for this misunderstanding laid at my door demands that I re-enter the discussion.

Well, all I can say is that this demonstrates is that you've fallen totally foul of (i.e. proved completely) Osmo Wiio's rule 3 of communication, and partially of several others as well....  wink

Well, I don't accept that of course, but to take my case further would involve taking back the slack that I cut a little while ago & I can see how things might degenerate. So this time I'm really retiring from the discussion.

But thanks for the link, I did enjoy it.
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Alan

Bunyip Bush Band
Reply #76
« on: January 04, 2008, 04:46:07 PM »
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Well, I don't accept that of course, but to take my case further would involve taking back the slack that I cut a little while ago & I can see how things might degenerate.

I shouldn't worry - because I made the original statement, it's only me that can say that it was misinterpreted. And however you look at it, it can't really be your 'fault', as such...
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Reply #77
« on: January 08, 2008, 11:51:33 AM »
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My statement is correct, since we had never heard of journalists being embedded, certainly not in the way that TV and the Press were using that term during the Iraq war.

If somebody uses a generic term to describe something, then it hasn't been lifted from anywhere. And therefore its usage, if appropriate, is quite correct - QED.

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I also did not that say nor imply that the origin of 'embedded' was HTML.

Yes you did:

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But did you all see how the word 'embedded' was itself lifted out of HTML jargon...

Perhaps you should try reading back what you write occasionally. And don't try wriggling out of the messes you get yourself into, because nobody's fooled, even for one moment.

No actually. Saying 'lifted' does not imply origin at all. It simply means that the word was taken from latest usage. If you want to discuss origins properly then we're looking at the etymological orgins of the word embed. It is likely that the popular usage of the word embedded in website building led to the term being lifted by a journalist; this does not even hint at, let alone imply origins of the word embed. You can be assured there is absolutely no wriggling out of anything here.
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Reply #78
« on: January 08, 2008, 06:18:59 PM »
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Saying 'lifted' does not imply origin at all. It simply means that the word was taken from latest usage.

Well that would be fine, except that as everybody knows, the concept of 'lifted' has nothing whatsover to do with 'latest' at all...
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