It's been six months...

I'll toss in my two cents - and since AA is not my primary platform these days, it's truly worth little more than that.

The main thing that's kept me from venturing off on a significant mixing project in AA, is the impression that it can't handle nearly the processing load that Samplitude can manage.  That impression manifests itself in the form of imperfect playback on fairly small projects.

Yesterday, for example, I'm working on that violin /piano recital.  That was recorded and mixed in Samp.  I was running it through AA to prepare it for burning to CD and decided add a little OZONE to it.  Bring up the effects rack for the only track in the session, apply one effect, and playback starts to break up.

Playback also breaks up in Edit view.  I have tracked this down - it's related to graphics activity.  In EV I keep the Freq Analysis and Phase Analysis windows open.  I have to keep those small or playback really suffers.  Ozone is pretty intense graphically, so I can see why that would load things up.

Having said that, in Samp I can have the OZONE windows open for 3 tracks at once and playback continues flawlessly - I'm sure I could open more, but that's all I've had reason to open.

Also, graphics were not an issue in 1.5.  I ran the Freq Analysis windows BIG in 1.5, and always had the phase analysis window pretty large too.

So my hope for the next version of Audition is that it gets more efficient.  My commitment to Samplitude is fairly short term.  Had 2.0 been out a year earlier I probably never would have gone there.  Most of the features that drove me to Samplitude are now in AA - automation, inserts, multiple sends, master effects, etc.  I still do all of my destructive edits and NR in AA.

If AA were to have the same processing horsepower as Samp, the one feature I would REALLY miss if I were to move back to AA would be object-level effects - AUX sends, inserts, EQ, etc, by CLIP rather than by TRACK.

That would be a lovely addition to AA, but probably far beyond the scope of an intermediate patch.  

Sounds like a few apples and pears being compared here Zem, I never have the problems you mention, I can run a 12 track mix with 2-3 effects on 4-5 tracks without a stutter, even when one of them is Guitar Rig (a HOG). I agree AA2.0 is more resource hungry, but I don't experience it as out of proportion to the quality and functionality. I don't kn0ow Samplitude so I can't comment on it.

Sounds like a few apples and pears being compared here Zem, I never have the problems you mention, I can run a 12 track mix with 2-3 effects on 4-5 tracks without a stutter, even when one of them is Guitar Rig (a HOG).

I can't argue the tiniest bit.  Glad to know you aren't having any issues.  What I get is not stutter - just crackle.  I can up my ASIO buffers (by a bunch) and clear it up, but the other apps I use work fine with the lower buffer/lower latency settings.  I can't help but think there is room for improvement in how AA is handling resources.

All I want guv'nor is to be able to use my Mackie Control properly..... and not have half the buttons redundant  

I can't argue the tiniest bit.  Glad to know you aren't having any issues.  What I get is not stutter - just crackle.  I can up my ASIO buffers (by a bunch) and clear it up, but the other apps I use work fine with the lower buffer/lower latency settings.  I can't help but think there is room for improvement in how AA is handling resources.

that is pretty much the same conclusion I came to back in January:

http://audiomastersforum.net/amforum/viewtopic.php?t=4675

I've recently switched back to using AA2 after working with Sonar 5 for a few months. Sonar 5's interface is horrible, and its lack of an edit view is frustrating.  

I need to keep my ASIO buffer size to 1024 samples in Audition to keep my sessions from stuttering with the effects I use, so I have to sacrifice software monitoring, but OTOH, I get a better sounding result in far less time than when I was using Sonar.

Almost a year later now, 2.0 still hasn't crashed, and is right there when I need it for something. The Edit Screen is also one of my favorite things, as I can really work with a file very easily there. The BBE Sonic Maximizer plug-in  I bought, also is working out great for me, and works well in Audition with no problems.

It's been solid as a rock, and does what I need. Midi recording would be great though.

I don't want my money back, I'd prefer to have the program on my computer and I would be lost without it.

have been experimenting a little more with AA 2 and discovered what, for me, is a major drop off in this new version.

In 1.5 and before when you hovered the mouse cursor over the Undo or Redo buttons it used to tell you what you were Undoing/Redoing. Now it only shows you the button description/keyboard short cut. When I have done a whole series of processes I sometimes need to work my way back through them to redo one further back in the chain. Now in AA 2 you have nothing to tell you where you are in the history unless you bring up the Edit Menu, which adds a lot more mouse/keyboard actions.

A lot of other bugs, quirks and changes I have been reasonably happy to work around. But this little one has completely p****d me off. It throws a big spanner in my work flow. Grrr.

With a new installation for second DAW in progress I was hoping to move onto AA 2 exclusively. But it looks like I shall be holding off a little longer or using a mixture of the two.

It's been six months...and still no update, patch, etc.!

It's been six months and I still don't have the program But it's interesting to read the opinions of everyone here. I haven't really needed the extra features AA 2.0 has yet so I figured I could wait and see what you all thought after having used it for a while.

Here in Oz we've advanced several hours into 17 July, which means Audition 2 is six months old.

Almost a year later now, 2.0 still hasn't crashed ...

djwayne - you can launch the Midi sequencer of your choice from the Favorites menu in CEP/AA (just link to the executable file of the sequencer).  That should give you the Midi recording you are looking for.  Now if Adobe could just work out the synch problems between the sequencer and AA 2.0.

Sonar Home Studio 4 XL is doing the midi for me right now. I was talking about a midi recording capability built in to the Multi-Track screen of Audition.
That would be nice.

As far as linking to another program in the Favorites window, I haven't figured that one out yet.

Modified from a different post at the Adobe AA forum. If the actual steps are different in AA 2.0, hopefully this will help you figure them out.

With CEP 2.1, I link to my Midi Sequencer program this way:

- Click on "Favorites" > "Edit Favorites" at bottom of drop-down menu;
- Click on "New"; Type in desired name (e.g. name of Midi sequencer);
- Click on the "Tool" tab; click on the "..." at the end of "Command Line";
- Change "Files of Type" to "All Files" in the pop-up dialogue box;
- Navigate to folder where your MidiSequencerName.exe lives and double-click on MidiSequencerName.exe.
- Click on "Save".

(Note; on my computer, the path at the Tool tab / Command Line is enclosed with quote marks. You can place your cursor in the path and type in quote marks if you need to.)

Now when you click on "Favorites", you should see your new entry for MidiSequencerName. When you click on that entry, it should launch your Midi Sequencer.

Note that you can do this for any launchable file (.exe; .bat; etc.) You can launch any program you want to from within CEP/AA - as well as scripts, etc.

From this topic, regarding using VBScript to automate computing the ratio for transposing audio up or down by cents:

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?128@@.3bbba23d

Thanks for the instructions. I set it up and Sonar does ineed open up from the "Favorite" menu, just as I can access Audition from Sonar's Tool menu.

But the fact remains, I'd rather Audition's Multi-Track section record midi notes, as I like working in Audition better than Sonar.

Sonar does indeed get the job done, but I just feel more at ease working in Audition.