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Topic: What sequencer will Rewire (or import) to Audition 2?  (Read 929 times)
« on: June 07, 2006, 05:41:09 AM »
Unadonis Offline
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have a very simple goal that I can't achieve, please help! I want to:

1) Rewire a (software) sequencer to Audition, record a track to the sequencer
using an external midi keyboard, quantize the track, then mix down/bounce
that track in Audition to turn it into a standard wav file.

I haven't successfully accomplished it, and there are posts saying what
sequencers SHOULD work (Acid Pro, FL Studio, etc) but I don't see anyone
saying they've already successfully done it. If you can do the above -What
sequencer/software are you using?

2) If I CAN'T do the above, I need a sequencer I can record a track to
using an external midi keyboard, quantize it, save it as a .mid file,
and import it into Audition and have that file trigger my external
keyboard and synch with Audition.

Sounds like it should be easy, but again, I haven't successfully done it.
Can you steer me towards accomplishing either of the above?
If sure, I'd sure appreciate it, thanks!
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« on: June 07, 2006, 08:55:53 AM »
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Hi there,

While finding out what Audition can and can't do I tried Rewire from FL Studio 5.  It works OK but there seem to be load issues. What I do is from AA enable FL as Rewire slave, launch it, load the tune and press play, switch back to AA, press stop and rewind to start, highlight the track (important!), then bounce to track.

Hope it helps
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« on: June 08, 2006, 10:35:12 PM »
Unadonis Offline
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"While finding out what Audition can and can't do I tried Rewire from FL Studio 5. It works OK but there seem to be load issues."

Great, thanks for the tip! I downloaded the demo version of FL Studio 6,
but poking around it, I couldn't make heads or tales of it (couldn't figure
out how to even record a basic sequence track).  

Now that it sounds like there's a high likelihood it could solve my problem,
I'll tackle it again with more determination and see what happens.   Smiley

If anyone else has 1st-hand experience with any other sequencer programs
that can be used with Audition 2, please add your 2 cents, it's appreciated.

(I think someone said Cakewalk Music Creator 3 could be used with
Audition 2 as a sequencer, can anyone confirm that 1st-hand? It's only
$30 versus $99 for FL Studio if it works)
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« on: June 09, 2006, 01:52:03 PM »
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I've been using Reason 3 but getting it to work with ReWire is nigh on impossible. The best latency I can get is around 1 1/2 seconds. Useless!!
I have to record Reason separately and import the .wav file cry

Mark
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« on: June 25, 2006, 07:18:40 PM »
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Hi everyone, new forum member DMD checking in Smiley

Quote from: Aim Day Co
I've been using Reason 3 but getting it to work with ReWire is nigh on impossible. The best latency I can get is around 1 1/2 seconds. Useless!!
I have to record Reason separately and import the .wav file cry

Mark

I agree it performs very bad by default...but, I found a way of getting much better performance. When opening a Reason track through Rewire, AA creates one track for each existing Rewire channel: 64!! So, I assume you don't use all of those...delete the ones you don't use and you'll find you gained a magnitude better performance.

Also: I assume you you've chosen an ASIO driver in the Audio Hardware Setup/Multitrack view...right?

Still, it's not performing very well. I have a Reason tune using approx. 80% CPU in stand-alone. When I run it from AA I have to increase the latency to 50 ms to get rid of pops/crackles.

I assume that there are additional ways to optimize Rewire performance in AA...and I actually registered to this forum today to search for tip's.
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« on: June 25, 2006, 07:43:58 PM »
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Welcome to the forum.
Quote from: DMD

Also: I assume you you've chosen an ASIO driver in the Audio Hardware Setup/Multitrack view...right?

You don't actually get a choice about this - even the Audition Windows Driver converts Audition's native ASIO... ASIO is absolutely inherent in the way AA2.0 works.

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Still, it's not performing very well. I have a Reason tune using approx. 80% CPU in stand-alone. When I run it from AA I have to increase the latency to 50 ms to get rid of pops/crackles.

I assume that there are additional ways to optimize Rewire performance in AA...and I actually registered to this forum today to search for tip's.

I haven't tried any of this at all, but improvements in other areas of audio performance have been noted by people using the free ASIO4ALL drivers instead of native ones. Have you tried this as a possible performance improver?
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« on: June 25, 2006, 08:03:56 PM »
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I have used Sonar Home Studio 4XL to record midi notes and transfer the midi files into Audition 2.0. I've also used the same program to mix my midi audio into wav files then transfer that into Audition as well.

Audition will play the midi notes, just not record them.

You can also edit midi notes just like you can edit wav files.

Both programs seem to work well together for me.
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« on: June 25, 2006, 10:49:02 PM »
DMD Offline
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Quote from: SteveG
Welcome to the forum.


Thanks!

Quote from: SteveG

I haven't tried any of this at all, but improvements in other areas of audio performance have been noted by people using the free ASIO4ALL drivers instead of native ones. Have you tried this as a possible performance improver?


I'm using EMU 1820 with the latest ASIO driver right now; but since Reason is pretty CPU-hungry stand-alone as well I'll certainly try that asio4all driver.

I previously used Creative Audigy which had separate ASIO drivers for 24 bit/16 bit. (The E-MU driver doesn't).  From Reason I typically used the much-better-performing 16 bit version  until I was ready to render the tune to disk. Hoping that asio4all will give me that.
Investigation continues tomorrow since it's well past bedtime here in Sweden now.
I'll keep you informed about any optimization findings reg. AA/Reason/Rewire...but that'll be in another thread since I guess I'm drifting away to OffTopic land here...
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