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Reply #30
« on: June 07, 2005, 10:07:22 PM »
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Basically, yes I think I am speaking for most people. Whenever I see a discussion getting very technical, it usually ends up with the same 2 or 3 people clued-up enough to join in. Audition users and broadcasting in general is essentially made up of two groups of people, technicians and creatives, and rarely do both possess each other's creative talent and technical know-how, and I will continue to stick up for the creatives  cheesy, I think I do speak for most creatives otherwise I wouldn't have written it the way did, I always say what I mean, and I think that some discussions on here get too technical sometimes, that's all. Besides, how much did any of the the technical stuff that came after the questions to my answer (which I thanked Steve for) actually add to my question in the first place? And ... am I not free to express my opinions now? If I think something is too technical, I will say it. A sad day indeed when a moderator tells a member that their opinion is wrong. The very nature of opinions says they can be right or wrong, the whole point about having an opinion is the right to express it.
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Reply #31
« on: June 07, 2005, 11:18:58 PM »
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Quote from: BFM
...rarely do both possess each other's creative talent and technical know-how...


I humbly thank the Good Lord that I am one of these rare talents.  wink

BFM's restraint is admirable after the responses that he elicited.  However, I would also have to agree that this forum isn't for "most people."  And I struggle regularly with the issue of 16/32 bit depth, dither, and what might sound best for a given job.  So I need to see all the details to be well informed.  

Less abbreviations!  That's it: don't use abbreviations.
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Reply #32
« on: June 07, 2005, 11:49:45 PM »
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MV .. integer .. FP .. dither .. it's occurred to me that you really do lose a lot of people when you use very technical jargon, when this forum is supposed to have a wide Audition user purpose, and only a minority of users, including producers and creatives are that technical .. kind of defeats the object of this forum which is, I imagine, aimed at the majority of Audition users.
I thought it was aimed at any Audition users, not just some undefined "majority".  Is there some reason you can't just ignore the bits that don't interest you, or just ask for an explanation?  It's the same as car enthusiasts - some will go on about the driving qualities or appearance of the vehicles, while others will discuss the details of the engine; but they can all happily be members of the same club, and even talk to each other about some things.

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MV .. integer .. FP .. dither .. <cut> very technical jargon
Knowing the difference between integer and floating point, and the basics of bit-depth and dither (not the maths), is actually rather useful in understanding how to use Audition (or any digital sound editor) properly.  You can get by with a set of rules, and that's fine, but learning about the fundamentals makes it easier to work out the solutions to some problems later rather than having to ask every time.

Paul
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Reply #33
« on: June 07, 2005, 11:51:01 PM »
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Quote from: BFM
And ... am I not free to express my opinions now? If I think something is too technical, I will say it. A sad day indeed when a moderator tells a member that their opinion is wrong. The very nature of opinions says they can be right or wrong, the whole point about having an opinion is the right to express it.

So you're entitled to an opinion and I'm not? I think you'll find that in my opinion you are a) applying double standards here, and b) wrong. I would have thought that it was self-evident that anything I express is my opinion unless I explicitly say that it's somebody else's.
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Reply #34
« on: June 08, 2005, 07:47:57 AM »
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I don't really want large sections of it at -35dB either, just because it's a quiet movement. With a lot of recordings, it's quite normal, and accepted, that the recorded level will be raised for quiet movements - organ music especially, because it's very easy in a large instrument to reproduce music with a very wide dynamic range - I recall that Ozpeter had a slight problem with this a while back...

Trouble is, the more choice you give people, the more they will disagree!


Fortunately with a S/N ratio of about 45dB from shellac I don't have too many sections at -35dB for too long! There's a long section of reasonably quiet music in the secoond movement of Sibelius' 6th Symphony that I'm looking at now, which generally runs between about -30 and -20dB. But with that kind of limited dynamic range I'm not going to get too upset about not peaking at -.1dB over the whole CD.

As for following Motorhead? Well personally a nice quiet bit of Debussy would suit me down to the ground, I suspect! If the Debussy came out at the same level as the Motorhead and left me leaping for the volume control I'd say something's wrong with the mastering somewhere... cheesy
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