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R.Branch
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Posted - Mon Jun 24, 2002 12:47 pm
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I use Cool Edit 2000 to record old LPs and over all it does a very good job. The weakest part of the program is the "click and pop removal" I've just added ClickFix and it is a great addition. I think Cool Edit should bundle Jeffery Kleins program with the next version of Cool Edit.
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Graeme
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Location: Spain
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Posted - Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:31 pm
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I think there are a few people here who would disagree with your dismissal of the Syntrillium "click and pop removal" tool. It is capable of producing excellent results. However, its very number of variables does make it hard to get to grips with and you need to experiment with it in some depth before getting the most out of it.
I also have ClickFix - and it can be very useful for a 'quick fix' - but I can achieve better results every time using the tool with the application, albeit taking a lot longer.
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lpdeluxe
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Posted - Thu Jul 18, 2002 10:59 am
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Graeme: I think you're right. I have cleaned up some LPs with CEP 1.2 (haven't done it yet w/2.0). I always start with the default settings, and make several passes. That has cleaned up songs that were noisy AND had long fadeouts, which is a difficult combination. If you are patient you can get very good results.
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post78
Location: USA
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Posted - Thu Jul 18, 2002 12:03 pm
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I've never felt the real need for a full click and pop removal so I can't really say either way how good it is in that respect, but I do on occasion have to get rid of digital pops and the "remove single click now" function is perfect in every way. Sometimes I have to do it twice, but even if I had to do it ten times, I would still not be able to go without it. Of course, I've also never used ClickFix so, you know...
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VoodooRadio
Location: USA
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Posted - Thu Jul 18, 2002 3:21 pm
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I recorded a session where the drummer used an Alesis D-4 trigger set up. Occassionally there was a ghost beat where he had the cross-talk and sensitivity out of whack (no pun intended) on the module and I used the "fill single click" function to get rid of the ghost. I'm well aware of the fact that it was not it's intended purpose, but it worked great and saved me alot of headache. Good Luck Voodoo
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post78
Location: USA
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Posted - Thu Jul 18, 2002 3:50 pm
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It's amazing how few rules there are with digital audio. I've made a number of lo-fi songs using nothing but CEP. I would start with a small sine wave, make it 8-bit, and just mess with it untill I had a kick and snare. Then I'd do the same for melodies with the help of good ol' pitch shift. I do this when I get bored. I've probably made close to 50 Nintendo-like songs this way.
You should all try it sometime. It makes you get creative and find your way around CE really quick. Plus you have an interesting CD for those long road trips!
Maybe next time I'll make a modulated-type sound out of a square or triangle wave using the "fill single click" function while in a BPM time scale. It could easily be the basis of the entire beat.
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Blaine
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Posted - Thu Jul 18, 2002 8:19 pm
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Alright, I use both Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction 2.0 AND CEP2.0 to remove pops and clicks. What I didn't like about CEP's P&C is that it has a really hard time with horns and high frequency transients. It is also very slow at times. SF is much faster, much easier to setup, doesn't have many artifacts and seems to degrade very gracefully when applied too heavy handedly. What I do use CEP's P&C for is single clicks and pops that are left behind - it's really excellent for that. Once in awhile I also use it to remove some intermittant crackling on LPs which SF doesn't do too well.
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