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Beef Stew
Location: USA
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 Posted - Sat Nov 03, 2001 9:54 am
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as a radio guy, the majority of my 'recording' for broadcast is 'we need it in five minutes.' other than a little reverb, echo or special effect here and there, the work is usually produced very quickly and without a lot of 'color'.
my question is, what is a general 'chain of events' to follow when it comes to effects? (reverb, compression, limiting, amplification).
in other words, which comes first, second, third, etc?
i'm not looking to pin anyone down to hard and fast rules, just a general guidline.
thanks in advance.
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SteveG
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted - Sat Nov 03, 2001 10:48 am
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There could be as many answers to this as there are contributors...! But I'll get my oar in early with a sort of general answer that starts with slightly different terms. And, as you quite rightly point out, It's just my point of view.
In general, spatial effects should come before temporal ones. Huh? Okay, I'll explain. It is quite normal to process amplitude and positional characteristics - compression/limiting, EQ, possibly panning, etc. before adding reverb, which usually comes last, or even delay effects. The reason is that it is easier to hear the effects of spatial/amplitude-based changes when they haven't been 'muddied' by the time-based stuff. If you want to find out just how much fun it can be the other way around, just try adding compression after the reverb, and you'll find the other reason that reverb comes last! Compressed reverb is an interesting effect, and certainly gives you a handle on the release settings...
Basically, I apply the same rules apply to individual tracks, always remembering rule 1 - always get the best possible recording you can before 'processing' begins. Then I apply effects in the same order I just outlined. Generally, because of the sort of recordings I do, I wouldn't dream of adding reverb irreversibly to a single track, but I recognise that there are valid reasons for doing this on occasion. On submixes? possibly, yes.
Oh, and if I use a harmonic exciter, that comes before the reverb, as well.
And that's probably quite enough from me...
Steve
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resistor man
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Posted - Sat Nov 03, 2001 8:06 pm
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Since you can't chain efx in the current CEP, this is a valid question, and SteveG is giving good advice. You may want to spend some time with a real time setup to hear the consequences. But remember, some of the best stuff comes from playing around in ignorance because you don't know the way it's "supposed to be".
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Beef Stew
Location: USA
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Posted - Mon Nov 05, 2001 7:44 am
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| Since you can't chain efx in the current CEP, this is a valid question, and SteveG is giving good advice. You may want to spend some time with a real time setup to hear the consequences. But remember, some of the best stuff comes from playing around in ignorance because you don't know the way it's "supposed to be". |
having spent many years in radio, i think the phrase 'playing around in ignorance' is superb!
Beef Stew
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