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beetle
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KenGAce
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 Posted - Wed Jul 25, 2001 5:39 pm
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It's a Lawyers world, after all.
With so many of them, we have to keep them all employed.
Lets hope that CEP can remove those little pops and clicks.
By the Way Beetle, do you know how to use the "Get Noise Floor" tool in the Hiss reduction tool? (see my latest post)
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beetle
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Posted - Wed Jul 25, 2001 5:46 pm
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You know all of those people who have been complaining about clicks and pops? We have been blaming theis soundcards. Hmmmm...
As for the hiss, I can't figure it out! I wish there was just a slider that you could lower the hiss with.
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KenGAce
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Posted - Wed Jul 25, 2001 6:01 pm
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If you apply the "Get Noise Floor" to the whole .wav file you get a pretty accurate Noise Floor overall and the net result is pretty good. But for a 25 min .wav file it take 25 min to get the floor and about 20 min to run the filter. So, 45 min per side, and 90 min per tape times x number of tapes. Get that coffee brewing.
Edited by - KenGAce on 07/25/2001 6:02:06 PM
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jester700
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Posted - Wed Jul 25, 2001 7:49 pm
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Apparently, the alternate cdfs.vxd that allows you to "see" cd tracks as wav files in explorer ALSO rips protected CDs OK...
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beetle
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Posted - Wed Jul 25, 2001 9:54 pm
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Actually, I have that cdfs.vxd file on this machine. So, you know for a fact that it will circumvent the new Macrovision CD copyguard?
BTW, if you have that cdfs.vxd file in your computer you can rip CD's DIRECTLY into Cool Edit! I just discovered this last week! So, I already have a CD ripper that works in Cool Edit! Yaaaay!
I will send the file to anyone who wants it. just know that you use it at your own risk. As far as I know it only works in Windows 98 and maybe ME.
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jonrose
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Posted - Wed Jul 25, 2001 10:41 pm
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Hi beetle,
I'm assuming you mean:
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS\CDFS.VXD
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Seems to be a WIN98SE file, installed with the OS, anyway. It's in ME, too. Not sure about original 98, as I don't use that anymore.
Would be interesting to know if this is really the case, and one could ignore the new Macrovision tweak.
All the best... -Jon
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beetle
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Posted - Thu Jul 26, 2001 2:39 am
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Jon,
That is the file, but NOT the one installed with the OS. It is an alternate file I had to install myself. I don't know if it will work in ME.
This file allows one to drop and drag tracks as .wav files right off the CD into a folder.
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Andrew Rose
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Posted - Thu Jul 26, 2001 5:17 am
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This is a seriously useful little file which *should* work in Win 95/98/Me but not NT/2000. Certainly works here in Win98. I found it to be most successful with stereo 16-bit 44100 Hz ripping (i.e. no sample conversion), but it's the seamless integration into CEP which I love.
BTW those who've looked long and hard at the results from this find that not only does it operate at almost exactly the same speed as Exact Audio Copy in its most accurate mode but that the results are pretty identical too unless the CD's in such a bad state that it has to try over and over to get a decent result (users of EAC will know what I'm getting at).
In other words, unless your CD's badly damaged, this is as good a ripper as anything, quality-wise, and more accurate than some...
Many thanks for pointing me in this direction!
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urumuqi74
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Posted - Thu Jul 26, 2001 5:30 am
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Hi beetle,
I'm assuming you mean:
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS\CDFS.VXD
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Seems to be a WIN98SE file, installed with the OS, anyway. It's in ME, too. Not sure about original 98, as I don't use that anymore.
Would be interesting to know if this is really the case, and one could ignore the new Macrovision tweak.
All the best... -Jon
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Yes, the CDFS.vxd files comes with ME but it's not the one that Beetle is talking about. You must replace the original one with the one that rips.
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urumuqi74
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Posted - Thu Jul 26, 2001 5:40 am
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You know all of those people who have been complaining about clicks and pops? We have been blaming theis soundcards. Hmmmm...
As for the hiss, I can't figure it out! I wish there was just a slider that you could lower the hiss with. |
But there is a slider to reduce the hiss. You will have better results if you use a pair of headphones to adjust the hiss reduction tools.
-You can first select the standard hiss preset.
-That should bring the value of the slider to around 8, you could hear garbles.
-Decrease it to -40 so the tool won't perform at all and the file will sound untouched hiss included.
-Then bring the cursor up to about -17. You should see a difference right there.
-Decrease or increase the cursor value as per expected results.
-Don't forget to preview the whole thing on monitors before proceeding to the hiss removal.
-This is the simple and fast way of using the hiss red. tool.
-I will guess that the get noise floor procedure is more accurate but you need a non musical sample from the sound file to go with it.
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RobertM
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Posted - Thu Jul 26, 2001 6:16 am
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I just read the Stereophile article.
...Chilling...
Think of the logic! We'll add spurious, significant, and intentional errors onto the disc. Those errors will be so bad that the CD player will be unable to play them, and will miraculously, and perfectly, splice the music together from either side of the error. "Don't worry, you won't be able to hear it." But a PC based CD-ROM drive will not be able to ignore the error, and will be "OVERWHELMED" by it, passing the error along as an audible click. Does this make sense? Is there not a convergence of CD transport technology going on, such that home CD players and CD-ROM drives are beginning to share components, capabilities, strengths and weaknesses?
Wasn't Steve hinting about something like this a couple of months ago? Some nefarious plan that Philips had to play around with the CD format? Certainly the hardware mfgs have to be a big player in this game.
The NERVE! It seems that they will continue to try to FORCE me to listen to the parts of the CD that I don't like. Does that sound like a good plan to get me to buy more music? I think not!
We can hope that PC based work-arounds will abound (as mentioned above), and will solve the problem, and this copy-protection scheme will prove to be more trouble than it's worth, just like other such software copy-protection schemes before.
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urumuqi74
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Posted - Thu Jul 26, 2001 8:27 am
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Hey Beetle, I didn't know that you were reading AUDIOPHILE magazines!!!
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beetle
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Posted - Thu Jul 26, 2001 11:07 am
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Hey Beetle, I didn't know that you were reading AUDIOPHILE magazines!!!
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...been reading them for ten years! I also read Mix and EQ. Why are you surprised? What? You thought I read Rolling Stone and those hip-hop mags?
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urumuqi74
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Posted - Thu Jul 26, 2001 11:38 am
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| ...been reading them for ten years! I also read Mix and EQ. Why are you surprised? What? You thought I read Rolling Stone and those hip-hop mags? |
Nope, I was suspecting it anyway. I recently had a very nice and harsh discussion in another thread in regards of music vs sound vs audiophilia. Where were you???
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