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cooknkpl Location: USA Posts: 256	Posted - Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:24 pm  Something a little lighthearted to break some of the tension aorund here... I have finally found my solution to recording guitar amps & drums at the same time... One corner of my studio is back to back with a guest bathroom in my house. So my sound engineer buddy installed a wall plate with XLR & 1/4" jacks in it, down low out of sight, so now when I need to isolate the guitar amp, I just set it on the toliet (lid down of course) & the guitar player just plugs right into the wall. Then I feed him a monitor mix via headphones. With the combination of wood & tile I get awesome sound in there. Now, since I have the 1/4" jacks, I'm thinking of mounting a small speaker under the tank & waiting for some unsusepcting person to go in.... "HEY - get off!...You're too heavy!!!" _________________ Kevin P. Looker The Good Shepherd's Studio www.goodshepherdstudio.com
DeluXMan Location: Canada Posts: 330	Posted - Tue Jul 15, 2003 5:56 pm  HaHa! Great idea Cooknpl. I'll have to do something similar myself.
ozpeter Location: Australia Posts: 3200	Posted - Tue Jul 15, 2003 6:28 pm  Sounds like the player comes out flushed with success. - Ozpeter
SteveG Location: United Kingdom Posts: 6695	Posted - Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:36 pm  It's far more fun to fit a large solenoid to the flushing mechanism, and have a remote control for it. Yes, I know it's a bit childish, but we really did this in our first student flat! Toilet was downstairs, and the remote control was in the living room upstairs. Person goes to the toilet, you count up to 15 and... For some people, it's a good job they're sitting down in the appropriate place when when you hit the button! _________________
cooknkpl Location: USA Posts: 256	Posted - Wed Jul 16, 2003 2:58 pm  Quote: It's far more fun to fit a large solenoid to the flushing mechanism, and have a remote control for it. Sorry Steve, but I'm not NEAR the "McGuyver" that you are. (I hope you understand the reference). So what does the above result in? _________________ Kevin P. Looker The Good Shepherd's Studio www.goodshepherdstudio.com
SteveG Location: United Kingdom Posts: 6695	Posted - Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:19 am  cooknkpl wrote: Quote: It's far more fun to fit a large solenoid to the flushing mechanism, and have a remote control for it. Sorry Steve, but I'm not NEAR the "McGuyver" that you are. (I hope you understand the reference). So what does the above result in? You just arrange it to yank the siphon up very fast - this gives you a good, powerful flush - from wherever you happen to have the remote positioned. Most people would have a switch beside the device, so that you could control it yourself, and we certainly did too, because when we'd finished, this was the only way to flush it. All we did was to put in a few more switches - there were three places you could do this from. Being a student flat, and with access to all sorts of other junk, we also arranged for one of those old pop-up car 'trafficators' to pop up outside the door when it flushed - all part of the service! The original device was more fun, and quite frightening if you were sitting next to it. This involved a reversible Parvalux geared motor, some pulleys, springs and rope. This just flushed it by 'pulling' the handle for you, but it had some problems with the rope and pulleys. So when we had to change the cistern, we just installed the solenoid on top of the new one. It was debatable which was more frightening - the arrangement of motor, pulleys and rope grinding away, or the considerable 'clunk' of the solenoid. Of course they both happened when you weren't expecting them. so it hardly mattered... Somewhere, one of my old flatmates has some pictures of all this - when he's back from his holiday, I'll have to dig them out. You will see immediately that this whole arrangement was based firmly on a certain "Heath Robinson" paradigm, which could be summed up in the glorious phrase 'If it works, it's neat' - AKA the rat's nest justification. 60's girls commonly used to scream the first time they were on the receiving end of being 'remotely flushed' - and if we wanted them to ever pay us another visit, we didn't do it to them again! Somehow I just don't think we'd get the same reaction now... _________________
Craig Jackman Location: Canada Posts: 909	Posted - Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:43 am  You could also run a speaker in there, mic the room, and use it as a primitive echo chamber just like they did in the 50's and 60's ... imagine nobody else in the world would be able to get your personal reverb sound! _________________ Craig Jackman Production Supervisor CHEZ/CKBY/CIOX/CJET/CIWW Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
cooknkpl Location: USA Posts: 256	Posted - Thu Jul 17, 2003 7:32 am  Cool idea...I'll create a new reverb preset & call it "Flush Plate Reverb" _________________ Kevin P. Looker The Good Shepherd's Studio www.goodshepherdstudio.com
kylen Posts: 290	Posted - Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:52 am  Quote: You could also run a speaker in there, mic the room, and use it as a primitive echo chamber just like they did in the 50's and 60's... I like that idea a lot. There's a tilely bathroom (short echo) and a tall entrance way (longer echo) I'm gonna try that in - then print the tracks and mix appropriately!8) I suppose I could make an impulse out of it for a preset later but I don't know how to do that yet - kind of like the SOnic Foundry or Voxengo impulse capturing machines. kylen
SteveG Location: United Kingdom Posts: 6695	Posted - Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:33 am  kylen wrote: Quote: You could also run a speaker in there, mic the room, and use it as a primitive echo chamber just like they did in the 50's and 60's... I like that idea a lot. There's a tilely bathroom (short echo) and a tall entrance way (longer echo) I'm gonna try that in - then print the tracks and mix appropriately!8) I suppose I could make an impulse out of it for a preset later but I don't know how to do that yet - kind of like the SOnic Foundry or Voxengo impulse capturing machines. kylen The impulses are quite a good idea, but you have to practice a bit to get a good result. Balloons have always been a good starting point - but make sure that they are quite big ones, and well blown up. And yes, you are going to need several of them. It's best to avoid nodes with the microphone and the balloon, and you want to be an unequal distance from all reflective surfaces as well - with both the mic and balloon. But they have to be in different places - unless you think that instant mic overload is going to help your impulse! And I don't think that putting the mic in the WC bowl is going to give you a particularly useful impulse, somehow. I'm sure that there's a bad joke about a 'wet' mix in there somewhere... _________________
kylen Posts: 290	Posted - Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:38 am  Thanks for the impulse tips SteveG! - kylen
djwayne Location: USA Posts: 583	Posted - Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:38 am  You can always fine tune the room with blankets on the walls, or tin foil, or steel plates....keep an eye out for drippy faucets though, and never let the amp fall into a bathtub filled with water. Singing in the shower is okay, but really hard on the microphone, not to mention the shock factor. Personally, I prefer recording in the living room, or kitchen, with my clothes on. I heard of one singer who recorded a song at a studio, in the nude, with the lights off. Whatever works !!
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