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radiokenny · Posted - Thu Jul 10, 2003 3:51 pm

Hey all...... been a long time since..I have been flooded with emails since the announcement of adobe taking over cool edit. People wondering if i could build and maintain a website that has a snitz forum and lessons on cool edit and the new adobe audition.
Here are the new forums.

Thanks radiokenny
Update:: http://www.audiomasters.org is operational. HEAD OVER TO THE FORUMS. Big Grin

Graeme · Member Location: Spain

Count me in - and I suspect a lot of other forum users will be overjoyed at the news.

I don't know if you've had a look at the Adobe forums, but the Webcrossing software is awful and I, for one, will not be maintaining much of a presence there (if any).

If you are in a position to do this (and it's legally possible to port over a lot of the more useful stuff which is here) then I'd be only too pleased to become a founder member!!

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

Bless you Laddy!!! I'm there.. just let me know when it's up and running. Wink

kylen · Posted - Thu Jul 10, 2003 4:52 pm

Hi radiokenny,
I see you were around before my time...

I belong to a few forums and would add yours also. Sometimes a change of scenery is all it takes to solve a problem or get inspiration.

Like a long walk thru the Mangroves...or the Riverwalk down in San Antonio...or your ear stuffed up against an 18" woofer crankin, whatever your taste!8)

I'll be there...

kylen

ozpeter · Location: Australia

I like to think that I'm here to learn and contribute in equal measure, coupled with an enjoyment of the community.

It's inevitable that many (most?) future questions will arise on the Adobe forums, and if I can make a contribution there despite the forum software then I'm going to give it a go. Whether the type of discussions will evolve there from which I've learned so much here remains to be seen.

I see Radiokenny's initiative as pretty heroic as I'm sure it will take time and effort to get an alternative Snitz-based Cool Edit / Audition forum going, but I do see more of a chance of the spirit of the community living on in that context, so long as it's kept alive by a steady flow of new threads, which tend here to come from the passers-through rather than the stayers. It would be interesting to see what happened if replies on the Adobe forum constantly referred questioners to answers on Radiokenny's forum!

So that's a typically long-winded way of saying that I guess I'd have a foot in both camps. And thanks, Radiokenny, for coming forward with this potential offer.

- Ozpeter

jonrose · Location: USA

Sounds like it would be a great place to lurk...
Smile

Go for it.

Best.... -Jon

SteveG · Location: United Kingdom

Kenny, I had a guess at the potential size of the existing database in 'Say goodbye!'. It may help to inform any decision you make.

Having looked at, and listened to, comments about the Adobe site, I think that what you are proposing would probably be a more acceptable alternative to being forced into a corporate graphics mould over there.

So far there seems to be no acknowledgement from Adobe that they understand what they are dealing with - and because corporately they will inevitably regard us as little more than an irritant, it's unlikely that they ever will. Like ozpeter, I will keep an eye on their forum, but it's clearly going to be difficult to respond sensibly to it, because they seem to be intent on treating their forum users like naughty children. Having an alternative that we could point people to if they want to ask about the vast majority of things, as they inevitably do, that aren't directly CEP/AA related could only be a healthy thing.

So far, all I've heard today is a very condescending

bonnder · Posted - Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:42 pm

radiokenny - If you build it, we will come.

And now, to growl a little. Some thoughts:

1. Do the posters to the current CE Forum own the rights to their own posts? I know this has been discussed recently, but I don't remember if a definitive conclusion was reached. If somebody can find the definitive answer, would you quote it here in this thread please? (I will look also)

If we do own our own posts, and since the Snitz Forums 2000 software is free, how could Adobe legally refuse to give us the forum database if we asked for it. There was not much point in asking for the database without a place to host it. But if radiokenny comes through ... Don't mean to be heavy-handed, but if we own our own posts and Adobe will not play nice, a class-action lawsuit would not be inappropriate. There is a "material loss" at stake here as the information contained in the forum database could be reconstructed only at great expense. That is, the users as a group would suffer a material loss (a phrase important to the judge) if we are denied access to that which is rightfully ours. (Try denying a person access to his own property and see how quickly the courts will rule against you.)

If it is determined that we own the rights to our own posts, we could serve legal notice to Adobe before "late August" to not destroy the Snitz Forums 2000 CE database. That also would undoubtedly be a class action.

2. If radiokenny needed to charge a small annual fee to keep the site up and running, I'm betting that many of us would pay it - provided the fee was reasonable.

3. We could form a non-profit educational organization. It could be known as the Cool Edit Users Group (or something else) - as there are lots of copies of Cool Edit out there that have owners who need information on how to use the software. And how convenient that, at least for a while, this information will be identical to what the users of Adobe Audition will need. Bet some of them would also pay a small annual fee to get real answers to their questions.

As for the non-profit organization:

- There is a quite reasonable leadership structure posted in another current thread.
- Fees paid in Point 2 would then be tax-deductible donations.
- Perhaps we could attract corporate sponsors who could also make tax-deductible donations. Adobe might discover that a tax-deductible contribution to keep this forum running at radiokenny's might be cheaper than trying to maintain the Adobe Audition forum. Certainly we could add another section called "Adobe Audition" to the current Cool Edit, Audio Cards, Plug Ins, and Radio sections that currently exists.
- We could maybe update CE96 and offer it for a small fee to all the small-time audio editors out there who don't need the muscle (bloat?) of CEP 2.1 - per MusicConductor's recent post in another thread. This would put some of Syntrillium's programmers back to work at least for a little while. If necessary, we could get outside financing for the CE96 reissue with a proper business plan. Havoc can help with this.
- Would Dave Johnson let us offer for sale all the other "little" stuff that the Syntrillium website now offers that Adobe is going to dump? Alas, if Adobe bought the rights to Snoqualmie, I guess they would have the right to kill it. But did they buy those rights? Perhaps Dave Johnson himself can tell us.
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Insurrection, anybody??? Or, if not insurrection, at least standing our ground.

This is off the top of my head. As other ideas occur to me, I will edit this post. Anyone want to put more flesh on this skeleton of an idea? Like, I know that zemlin and graeme and others are operating businesses. Perhaps a joint venture with radiokenny would be more appropriate, where the non-profit organization could be a subsidiary of your business.

kylen · Posted - Thu Jul 10, 2003 7:01 pm

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

bonnder · Posted - Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:10 pm

Not joking - just trying to help jump-start the thought processes. Out of one or two or three "silly" comments, other people's minds jump to significantly less-silly thoughts. Just trying to trigger some brainstorming.

post78 · Location: USA

You guys ain't getting rid of me that easily. Me and I and the other me will be there, as normal as ever!

SteveG · Location: United Kingdom

SteveG · Location: United Kingdom

green peanut · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 4:17 am

Count me in too. I just went over to the Adobe forum......and it's really sad. I told them how much I like their photo "elements" program.....and that's true, it's super!

Audition may well be super too....we'll wait and see. BUT you don't have to WAIT....to see what they call a FORUM.

Go over and take a look. After you do, you'll want to encourage RadioKenny......too.

I'm with you, RK....even willing to pay a reasonable fee.

pwhodges · Location: United Kingdom

There are good reasons for restricting editing after a brief period, and most forums do it. Consider - if you could edit a post you made a year ago libelling someone, just as it came to court? At the least, it could be argued that all edited information should be preserved in a log (which I doubt this forum software does) for legal reasons - whereas if editing's not allowed, this is unnecessary.

A large company with lawyers is likely to be far more sensitive to this sort of thing than enthusiasts who think no ill of anyone!

Paul

twright · Location: USA

HanzZ · Location: Netherlands

Count me in.
Will be there.

-- HanzZ

the3jsgrve · Location: USA

Bobbsy · Location: United Kingdom

I'll be following "the guys that know" and will hang out at whichever forum you eventually end up at!

Bob

SteveG · Location: United Kingdom

Cal · Location: USA

I'm all happy to even think about a future home for us all that would carry on the look, feel, and usability of what we now have... Approve

And radiokenny has already demonstrated that he could probably do something along this line, and I would also be glad to contribute $, if need be.

But... if that should ever really come to life, with the Cool Edit name slowly dying out and Adobe Audition coming in, and with ALL new users of Audition probably tapping into the only forum they are going to know about (the Audition forum on Adobe's site), won't we become somewhat of an inbred group here, with very little new blood coming in?

I know Oz made the remark about lurking in the Adobe forum and pointing to another one, but that seems a bit.... cumbersome. Dead

Any volunteers for Traffic Cop duty at the intersection? Who can take Tuesdays? Anyone for Friday night?

Would that work in the long run? Well, it certainly would have to be a *continuing* effort, as long as there are new buyers (forever). And it also might be an error to believe that if we do that long enough and manage to spirit away some users to our forum that Adobe will give in and use Snitz. But I don't think that would happen, unless it represented $$$$ to them. And they are much much more than audio, and probably always will be. DorothyK brings up issues about their current forum and why certain decisions were made about forum software, but some here have countered the arguments quite handily, that we are audio and don't share the problems of video and graphic content in forums.

The fact that we are quite able, actually, to monitor and police our own forum is evidence that the community is solid and not prone to misbehaving. And... able to handle OT material as well.

I'd lay my next paycheck on this: If those Adobe product users could see this forum, and use it for one week, they'd become a disgruntled lot -- not that that would even affect Adobe one bit.

But my original point was, I'm concerned that, if we have our own forum apart from the mainstream of new purchasers, we will become The Old Geezers Social Club, sitting around and getting our chuckles about the old days and reminiscing and visiting because we have.... nothing else to do -- afterall, we all know one another and CE (oops!... Audition) quite well by now. No forum is valuable unless it has those who need help. And I can see us, after a month or so, all look at one another and say, "Hey, what are we doing here... anyone helped anybody lately?".

Otherwise, radiokenny, you may as well set up a really nice chat room.

:???: Can we really get most/all new users into a non-Adobe audio forum? Question

Would it be a rewarding and profitable effort? Question

kylen · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:30 am

radiokenny · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 10:20 am

post78 · Location: USA

django · Location: United Kingdom

This is interesting ! does this mean that if you give me a piece of advice on say delay settings and then I ask the same question word for word on another forum and you give the same anwser then we are theoreticly infringing the terms?

django · Location: United Kingdom

cal

kylen · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:02 pm

Hi django,

I just noticed your 2 names are of some of my favorite guitarists. The obvious one of course Django Reinhardt (may haved goofed up the spelling Smile

) from the Hot Club and totally out of this world. And your profile says your name is Angus, Angus Young from the Australian AC/DC one of my other favorite classic guitarists - classic rock that is!8)

But then I like Montoya too, and Rev Gary Davis, and myself (gotta believe in yourself!) so everybody's got a huge list, right - don't get me started!

Maybe you're a guitarist yourself with all that going for you !

Keep up the good posting!8)

kylen
guitarist first, compressor expert wannabee second

William Rose · Location: USA

It's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out.

You can count me in on a Snitz forum too.

As far as SteveG's comment about us being a minor irritant, I'm not so sure. I've said this elsewhere, but I think the perception that the companies that sponsor these forums, for their products, are doing so out of appreciation or gratitude, out of their own pocket, is a bit of a smokescreen.

Certainly that would be the official stance taken, but it doesn't wash. I think the forums function as an immensely valuable supplement to their technical support facility, but you'd never catch them saying that publicly.

Dorothy K, from Adobe has maintained an omnipresence here lately, and I don't think it's out of curiosity. She has been very shrewdly responding to almost every issue raised, maintaining a perfect corporate ambiguity, with a very disarming and pronounced Wisconsin slant. A "volunteer" she is not. At least, not one without a very defined task assigned.

The possibilty of a Audition User-Forum being established outside of their "realm" that could very conceivably include the "core users group" that right now they are desperately trying to herd in over there, will be too much, I'm sure. They will capitulate. They will go as long as they can, up to the very last possible moment, before they do, but in the end, they will do what it takes to get this group under their flag. And they'll do it offhandedly, and act as if it really is a great deal of skin off their back, grumbling all the way.

Don't you believe it.

kylen · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:24 pm

ozpeter · Location: Australia

If you do a bit of math with the forum statistics, William, I'd view the attempts to 'herd us in' as more a matter of courtesy than desperation. But I guess I'm inclined by nature to take that view of the world, until proven wrong (which of course does happen from time to time).

- Ozpeter

DorothyK · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:59 pm

William Rose · Location: USA

The effort is to concerted, or, I should say, pronounced, to be seen as pure courtesy

And I'm being a little overly suspicious, I'm sure. Maybe a little self-important. But dammit, if it loses money, it goes. And there isn't a large field of exceptions to this. I'm not saying we're a big source of revenue, but that we are by comparison, a nearly free source of support. But I suppose, if we all decided not to move over to the Adobe forums, the world would continue turning for them. There will be others. I don't know, Dorothy K was a bit contradictory in stating her (Adobe's) position on this. At one point she was trying to make it sound as if these forums were actually cost prohibitive in terms of support, which was retarded, and then at another, she allowed that it was a preferable path for user questions because it was faster, easier etc. etc.

A guy just posted here, new member, coincidentally a long time user of Adobe products, just got his copy of CEP, really hopes some of us will be able to help him out with it, but doesn't have any questions yet ? How much you wanna bet, Adobe users will slowly start to appear with greater frequency around here ?

Or, maybe I'm just being an ass. It's possible.

EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT

Whoops! It took me so long to write that last post, (as always) I didn't see you there Dorothy. So, keep in mind, my post was being written before you posted last. Wasn't ignoring you.

(But see what I mean about "omnipresence") Big Grin

William Rose · Location: USA

And Dorothy, have the salt close at hand when reading my posts. Because of the relative anonymity of the internet, I can be a bit looser with the tongue than intended or needed. My temper is not the most finely trained beast in this circus.

By the way, I'm from Minneapolis, so I'm a little extra hard on people from Wisconsin. I've got a million "People from Wisconsin" jokes. I'll spare you though. Wink

radiokenny · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:35 pm

Ok, Guys ...... The basic website is finished and on my personal web space. A domain name has been donated. I am waiting for a reply on the server space for the new snitz forum and we can feel it out from that point. I'm trying to get a handle on how much my monthly cost will be for the forum if someone can't donate space. If anyone else wants to donate the space on a server.... email me. I will do all I can to keep the community together and growing. Sorry if I fall short��Remember.... I don't claim to be a webmaster. lol. .......Radiokenny.

The new site is being built at http://www.timelinecenter.com

It's also a weird coincidence that many people have emailed me asking questions that are weirdly similar to the ones in the syntrillium knowledge base. I guess that I will have to create a page to answer them in my own words. I better get back to work.

jonrose · Location: USA

You just don't mess around at all, do you?
Heh! Cool

Thanks for the effort!

Best... -Jon

DorothyK · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:50 pm

William Rose · Location: USA

Indeed, I abandoned the "Land-Of-10,000 Taxes" for something more economically robust, and climates less temperate. Now this state is in the economical equivalent of a black-hole, but here I am.

Weather's nice though !8)

I mean, I don't care how long you live there, -45 degrees is just too much. What was there to prove ?

Eden-Prairie is nice, my grandfather was born there. Small world. I get back about once a year, or when somebody dies. Evil

Just let it be in the summertime. (It never is.)

DorothyK · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:37 pm

It is a small world! The picture I posted of me in my car was taken in Eugene, OR. My next stop was Portland. The best photo I have from there is the Hung Far Low c0ck[t:5e7e28a0d9]tails[/t:5e7e28a0d9] sign... a buddy made sure I saw that. It's created more than just or two giggles since then. Most of the pictures from my trip are at http://www.dorothyk.net/WestCoast/ if you're interested in poking around in them.

kylen · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:50 pm

Cool pics Dorothy! 8)

Notice everyone she didn't stop by San Jose to pick up a paycheck from headquarters. Anyway that's where I live. About 30 minutes north of the beautiful Santa Cruz (if I fly down 17 - which you don't want to do!)

OK, then you're comin to the new forum(s) with us right?:D

kylen

oldman · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:51 pm

Geeez radiokenny the site and forum look great but I think that you've created a monster. You've got 20 questions already!

Mal

William Rose · Location: USA

Ahhh, Eugene.........

My heart lives there. With her.

jonrose (No relation. At least, not documented.) lives up my way too, I don't know what city. Willamette Valley though, I think.

jonrose · Location: USA

Could be....Could be. Not Eugene, though.

I'll be looking for John C. at the Oregon Country Fair tomorrow, though.... Heh-heh-heh!!!
Big Grin

:D

Best... - Jon

DorothyK · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 10:19 pm

The who trip was a write off... most of the people I am pictured with are online cohorts of one type or another, so I just scheduled a bunch of "business meetings" along the way. The forums are run out of the Seattle office, plus that is where the InfoPop people are, so that was 2 business stops. John (Adobe forum manager) is the guy on (his) couch on one of the Seattle pages. I ended up there with him, then took the Bremerton ferry and went around the Olympic peninsula to visit Bruce in Tacoma, then back to Seattle before I headed back here. 3.5 weeks crawling the west coast, from LA to Seattle. Fun time!

DorothyK · Posted - Fri Jul 11, 2003 10:21 pm

Graeme · Member Location: Spain

django · Location: United Kingdom

django · Location: United Kingdom

Hi kylen

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

radiokenny · Posted - Sat Jul 12, 2003 4:19 pm

Ok..... I've added some more to the site. I have all the original radiokenny basic lessons (without screen shots) I am adding all of the information that syntrillium gave me written permission to use when i made my lessons.

Ive also have hit a snag in the road. No one seems to be able to help donate space for the snitz forum and I may not be able to pay for the server. Without getting to personal... my wife will find out tomorow that she may need a surgery. This may strap me for cash. I'm sure that you all understand. Please throw a few prayers if you can.

I have come up with a couple of other options for forums. Here are two samples that i have come up with. The second forum works like this one.... but has a snag. It has a popup banner from time to time. I hate popups.
The second is virtualy ad free but isnt as customizable and easy to register.

The forum links were removed. After a gift of server space.

I can keep looking if neither seem good.

Thanks, radiokenny

Despised7 · Member

Hey!

I'd be willing to let you set up a Forum on my host. I have phpBB (which is basically identical to the Snitz forum, only in PHP instead of ASP). The only problem is, you would have to use my domain name in part of the URL...so it would be something like---> 'http://confesschrist.com/cep/'.

I'm hoping, just like everyone else that Adobe allows this dedicated online community (yes, it is a COMMUNITY, not just a forum) to grow. Heck, if it wasn't for THIS community I probably would not have purchased Cool Edit. Basically everything that I know about digital audio has come from all of YOU! Cool

And for that I am greatly indebted. The existence of this community speaks loudly for the power of music. We all come from different backgrounds, live in different states, and even countries, we all live different lifestyles, yet we are united by our passion for music. It is our language. And as long as that passion remains, no matter where the forum is moved our "community" will live on, and continue to grow! :]

Rock!
-Chris-

radiokenny · Posted - Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:03 pm

Sounds like a great gift. One that I can't refuse. Whenever you want to set it up... I'm ready to add the link to the site. We basically want a forum that mirrors the same catagories as this one. Just Add my name Radiokenny as a moderator and I will get in touch with some of this forums longest and most active members to see if they will assist in the moderation. If I can be any help... Big Grin

you can email me at with the details.

Again..... Thanks for the very generous gift. Big Grin

radiokenny · Posted - Sun Jul 13, 2003 9:22 pm

The New forums are ready and working!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go to http://www.timelinecenter.com and have fun.

A big thanks to despised7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Graeme · Member Location: Spain

Indeed - a big thanks to everyone concerned.

Despised7 · Member

Hey Pav!

Thanks for the info, we're gonna upgrade the phpbb software like you said. We'll also look into the attachment mod. Images would be ok to 'attach', but my host is against uploading mp3's....so that's a bummer. :S

Thanks again!
Chris

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

Hey Chris, just wanted to say THANKS! I had posted a "thank you" post for Kenny before reading through the other pertinent thread and realizing that YOU provided the server space. THANK YOU! And, as I alluded to in the other post, if I can be of any help... let me know! Wink

Despised7 · Member

I've had good luck with my host, but they DO have some strange ideas like the anti-mp3 thing. But heck, I've had mp3's up before and they never said anything. I guess what they don't know can't hurt them? Haha!

-Chris-

radiokenny · Posted - Tue Jul 15, 2003 11:34 am

oops ... i bumped into this.

radiokenny · Posted - Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:24 pm

opps ... i bumped into this..........

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

Man!... Kenny, your a "bumpy" kinda guy! Wink

Pro_Support · Posted - Fri Jul 18, 2003 6:36 pm

I know this is a little old but I just had to comment.

Cal · Location: USA

bonnder · Posted - Fri Jul 18, 2003 8:12 pm

I have two thoughts, and I don't think they are mutually exclusive.

I've asked this question elsewhere in this on-going buyout discussion: who (users) at the Adobe forums knows how the Cool Edit program works, and how audio works, in sufficient detail to be able to answer questions? If none of the current Snitz Cool Edit gang chooses to answer the questions, who is going to? My guess is that new users are going to go where they can find in-depth answers to questions about all things audio and Cool Edit. That quite possibly will not be the Adobe forum. It is possible there will not be many questions posted on the Adobe forum.

On the other hand - if legitimate questions do get asked on the Adobe forum, I'm willing to bet that the current Snitz Cool Edit gang won't hold off on answering them. It will take one or two or three knowledgeable folks to lead the way in providing answers, and I know there are such people already planning to lead the way.

I think the Adobe forum is only good for answering a certain type of question (one that requires a short answer, or an answer along the lines of "here is where in the FAQ you find that answer). I think that type of question will probably be answered on the Adobe forum. Questions that require a lot more give and take to get to the answer(s) will either be posted at the AudioMasters site to begin with, or the questioner will be referred to that site for further discussion.

At the Snitz CE Forum, we already hop around among 5 or 6 or more different sub-forums. It is really not going to be that big of a deal to bookmark the Adobe forum and hop over there also.

Pro Support - you are not going to get left.

Despised7 · Member

Bump went the baby!!

radiokenny · Posted - Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:15 am

Bump be a lady tonight... bump be a lady tonight... bump if you've ever been a lady to being with..... bump be a lady tonight.

Have you ever seen a old blue eyes bump?:D

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

"My Anaconda don't won't no.... Baby... got... BUMP!" Wink

William Rose · Location: USA

B-Bump ! ......(Ouch !) ............(Quit it !)

radiokenny · Posted - Sat Jul 19, 2003 12:26 pm

I know your eyes in the morning bump
I feel you bump me in the pouring rain
And the moment that you wander far from me
I wanna bump you in my arms again

How deep is your bump
How deep is your bump
I really need to learn
'cause we're living in a world of fools... with a 30 minute posting limit. Big Grin

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

Ooh Saay, can you "buuuuummmppp"... oh nevermind! Blush

radiokenny · Posted - Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:04 pm

I agree we have crossed the bumping line.

MusicConductor · Location: USA

Covert bumping:

Making an invisible edit to a previous post, thus no content is altered but the thread rises back to the top of the heap...

MusicConductor · Location: USA

...and from the looks of things, Covert Bumping is a regular event here.

So here's one that's NOT covert.

BU

M
P

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

Nice job MC! I particularly was impressed with the large font stagger move. ;)

Oh yea, and.... BUMP!

William Rose · Location: USA

Ok, MC. How'd ya do that ?

I mean, it's no big deal but, really, how'd ya do that ? Shy

William Rose · Location: USA

I forgot to umm, B U M P !

the3jsgrve · Location: USA

Oh where, oh where has my new forum gone?

MusicConductor · Location: USA

The server changeover must have gotcha.

William, just hit "reply with quote" to see the formatting. All I did was use size=6 and play with the justification, which as you can see can be set to left,
center,
or right.
Now if we'd just get Left Surround and Right Surround we'd have 5.0 surround text.

Give me coffee or give me death.

Despised7 · Member

Come on over to our new home.
Rock!
-Chris-
Smile

Dakota · Location: Spain

bonnder · Posted - Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:58 am

This site was not locked a few minutes ago - except for the Forum Announcements section.

http://audiomastersforum.net/phpbb/index.php

That is the new website address for AudioMasters.

Dakota · Location: Spain

Thanks for the link bonnder. I kept on finding my way to the old locked site on separatedband.com!

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

William Rose · Location: USA

Get up der .

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

Play it again.... Sam!! Approve

Despised7 · Member

.....if yer not over at the audiomasters forum (the NEW home of the Cool Edit community), you might be a redneck(or somebody who is extremely confused, like me)!

radiokenny · Posted - Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:30 am

jokes now huh?..... why did the audiomaster at audiomasters.org cross the road? Big Grin

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

How many AudioMaster's forum members does it take to...... Blush

MusicConductor · Location: USA

C'mon, Voodoo! Only 5 more and you'll be crowned with another star!!!

VoodooRadio · Location: USA

What a rush!

Oh and.... B U M P

radiokenny · Posted - Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:03 pm

http://www.audiomasters.org

Despised7 · Member

William Rose · Location: USA

I give up Kenny. Why did the audiomaster at http://www.audiomasters.org/ cross the road ?

William Rose · Location: USA

Don't tell me you don't have a punchline. >:K

Ok, here's one Post78 will appreciate. How many forums does it take to have a forum at http://www.audiomasters.org/ ?

William Rose · Location: USA

You see, post78 was complaining about all of the sub-forums over at.......well, never mind. Bump.

sk · Location: USA

Wow. Beetle is a mod at the new forum. I'm almost speechless.

sk

Despised7 · Member

What do you say? Let's bump this up a notch! Cool