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LEE TYLER Location: USA Posts: 47	Posted - Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:05 am  I am a cute wittle' dinosaur using CE 1.0. I am having trouble recording in the multitrack environment AFTER I had already recorded a vocal track.(track 1 and 2 music, track 3 and 4, vocals) I wanted to eliminate the paper rustling and lip-smacking sounds, so I took these vocal tracks (3,4) into the edit view, selected the offensive portion, and went to transform>silence. When I went back to the multitrack environment, I was unable to record on any unrecorded portion of the same track. Like I am locked out. It seems when either silencing or removing waveform-block fuctions are performed, there seems to be an inability to record on that SAME track in the multitrack view (other than overdubbing on the existing recorded material). Anybody know what in the blazes I am doing wrong? Thanks very much in advance. PLEASE help P.S. I found this in the archives. Is this the info I may be looking for? 'unable to record before a sound block' Sincerly, Lee
jonrose Location: USA Posts: 2901	Posted - Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:55 am  First.... Any reason you haven't downloaded the 1.2a patch for CEP1? Just curious - it's free, after all. I don't recall version one ever being able to do what you describe, even if you hadn't silenced a selection. I'll admit that it's been awhile... I've been using version 2 mostly this past year, since it was released. I'll have to dig out my version 1.1 disc and load it, then do the upgrade patch (which you should probably do, also - it's much more stable that way). Maybe someone else can comment on this, but I don't think what you're trying to do is actually possible, if I understood you correctly. Best... -Jon _________________
LEE TYLER Location: USA Posts: 47	Posted - Fri Apr 25, 2003 1:09 am  jonrose wrote: First.... Any reason you haven't downloaded the 1.2a patch for CEP1? Just curious - it's free, after all. I don't recall version one ever being able to do what you describe, even if you hadn't silenced a selection. I'll admit that it's been awhile... I've been using version 2 mostly this past year, since it was released. I'll have to dig out my version 1.1 disc and load it, then do the upgrade patch (which you should probably do, also - it's much more stable that way). Maybe someone else can comment on this, but I don't think what you're trying to do is actually possible, if I understood you correctly. Best... -Jon Like I said. I am a dinosoar regarding upgrades. I think by highlighting the track in question and "creating a mono waveform" seems to fit the bill for my predicament. Any thoughts? ....and thanks for responding, man! ~~~Lee
jonrose Location: USA Posts: 2901	Posted - Fri Apr 25, 2003 1:26 am  Well, "Mr. Dinosaur", (heh-heh! ) Try out this page: http://support.syntrillium.com/updates.html ...and grab the patchfile for version 1. You can install this one if you still have your CD copy of version 1. As far as workarounds go, it appears there is one in the thread you found, and it looks plausible. Give it a try! Best... -Jon _________________
Gulliver Location: Estonia Posts: 442	Posted - Fri Apr 25, 2003 1:30 am  My advice is... don't even try to record on the SAME track. Why should you?? You have a plenty of them (empty tracks) to record to! Just arm a new track, make your recording, and mixdown the new one with the previous vocal track(s) into one single file. Isn't this simple enough?
Craig Jackman Location: Canada Posts: 909	Posted - Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:29 am  You can't record in the middle of one track if there is audio information farther down in the same track. Start recording on a new track ... after you have finished the 1.2a upgrade ... there is no acceptable reason not to! _________________ Craig Jackman Production Supervisor CHEZ/CKBY/CIOX/CJET/CIWW Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
LEE TYLER Location: USA Posts: 47	Posted - Fri Apr 25, 2003 3:15 pm  Use different tracks. OK. But for multiple different takes on a vocalist's performance, does this make sense? Applying FX to all those different tracks individually? Or is what is being said in the previous responses is to mix down all the vocal tracks to ONE track, then add vocal FX as needed? Me slightly corn-fused.
SteveG Location: United Kingdom Posts: 6695	Posted - Fri Apr 25, 2003 3:36 pm  LEE TYLER wrote: Use different tracks. OK. But for multiple different takes on a vocalist's performance, does this make sense? Applying FX to all those different tracks individually? Or is what is being said in the previous responses is to mix down all the vocal tracks to ONE track, then add vocal FX as needed? Me slightly corn-fused. That might be the answer - if you've got loads of vocal tracks aligned, then all you really have to do is a splicing exercise to comp the vocal into one track from the takes, and do a mixdown of that track, and treat it. At least that's what should happen, I think - I haven't used CEP 1.2 for ages, and there's another way of doing this in CEP2.1... Anyway, there's definitely a way of avoiding having to effect all of the different tracks! _________________
VoodooRadio Location: USA Posts: 3971	Posted - Fri Apr 25, 2003 4:59 pm  FWIW, when I'm comping vocal tracks down..... I use the volume envelopes and "solo" buttons to audition each phrase and then when I find the phrase I want, that one gets the enveloped drawn "full up" and the others pulled down. After the entire vocal track is comped out, I ctrl+click on all the vocal tracks and do a Edit/Mixdown/Selected waves to mono and.... Whaaalaaa! I'm sure there are other ways, but this is the method that I've gotten comfortable (and quite fast) with. _________________ I said Good Day! Voodoo
LEE TYLER Location: USA Posts: 47	Posted - Fri Apr 25, 2003 5:11 pm  VoodooRadio wrote: FWIW, when I'm comping vocal tracks down..... I use the volume envelopes and "solo" buttons to audition each phrase and then when I find the phrase I want, that one gets the enveloped drawn "full up" and the others pulled down. After the entire vocal track is comped out, I ctrl+click on all the vocal tracks and do a Edit/Mixdown/Selected waves to mono and.... Whaaalaaa! I'm sure there are other ways, but this is the method that I've gotten comfortable (and quite fast) with. A very interesting technique to this greener! Thanks to all for sharing and imparting their experience regarding my inquiry. You guys are great!
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