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JuNe
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 Posted - Thu Apr 03, 2003 11:54 pm
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Is there a DIRECT X plug in for COOL EDIT PRO 2.0?
I've heard its a real good plug in to get.. but i'm not sure if the people i've heard this from have cool edit pro 2.0 and most don't remember where they got their DIRECT X PLUG in from...
does one even exist and if so, is it free and where can i download it?
thanks alot
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Gulliver
Location: Estonia
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Posted - Fri Apr 04, 2003 12:08 am
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Hey, there is a billion of Direct X plugins (and all are for CoolEditPro  ).
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VoodooRadio
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Posted - Fri Apr 04, 2003 7:21 am
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In fact.... ANY Direct X plug-in will work with CEPro. And... for extra icing on your cake... with the use of a VST Wrapper, you can also run the majority of VST effect. So... Gulliver is NOT exagerating here.... literally billions (O.K., maybe not billions but... all that's out there!)
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Graeme
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Posted - Fri Apr 04, 2003 2:17 pm
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Yet again, we seem to have a user of an expensive piece of software who has little understanding of it. Doesn't anyone research their purchases these days?
DirectX is a means, not an end, to providing additional facilities to an application, same for VST. Many other applications, apart from CEP can act as 'hosts' for these plug-ins.
More to the point, in this case, I think JuNe should first do some basic research into what all this is about, before spending his/her money. There's very little which can not be achieved in CEP without additional plug-ins (or money) and I suggest this avenue is explored first.
The plug-ins which are most useful (Ozone, for example) are the ones which require considerably more understanding of the fundamentals than are obviously possessed at this time and it really would be casting pearls before swine.
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AMSG
Location: Sweden
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Posted - Fri Apr 04, 2003 3:03 pm
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This is indeed strange...it's not like we're talking about buying some candy without knowing how it tastes. If it tastes bad, well too bad but it didn't cost a lot. This is a bit different with programs like this of course. If you don't like it you throw away looots of cash.
I myself compare as hell when I intend to buy stuff. Read reviews, compare specs and so on. I don't like to throw away money on something I don't understand/like. But hey, maybe all the others out there are much richer than me so they can afford it to just buy without thinking first?
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post78
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Posted - Fri Apr 04, 2003 3:11 pm
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You gents are far too nice. Here, allow me:
"Doesn't anyone [t:2f38bcd1ac]research their[/t:2f38bcd1ac] purchase[t:2f38bcd1ac]s[/t:2f38bcd1ac] these days?"
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AMSG
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Posted - Fri Apr 04, 2003 7:05 pm
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Hehe, post:]
But seriously, they can of course ask such questions, no problem for me. But what are they thinking? Why do they consider buying these programs actually if they don't have a clue what it's all about?
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tomcat
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Posted - Fri Apr 04, 2003 8:22 pm
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To be completely honest here, I didn't really know (understand) what "Direct X" was when I first purchased Cool Edit Pro. But then again, I never used them until I DID know what they were (and did).
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AMSG
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Posted - Sat Apr 05, 2003 2:53 pm
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But when did you buy it? Many years ago? I think that makes a difference. Nowadays DirectX is more known (I think...).
But why do these people want to buy such software then? Is it because of the intrusive marketing...the one that convinces you that you need this product because everybody else has it, or what?
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VoodooRadio
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Posted - Sat Apr 05, 2003 3:53 pm
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Some people have more money to "piss off" than others. Sure, most of us research our purchases, because the money ain't fall'n off a tree. There are kids, who's Mommy and Daddy will gladly throw a couple hundred buck at them just to keep them in their rooms. It doesn't surprise me in the least. As for the DirectX thing.... while I have been in (and around) music/recording for a long time (30+ years), I haven't been using software to do it, all that long (about 3 years). When I first got interested.... I didn't know anything about recording/editing software, (much less what DX was). And as Post is alluding to, some folks "acquire" they're software at absolutely no expense, therefore they don't feel the need to research. It's sad, I know..... but, it true! 
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post78
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Posted - Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:45 pm
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| Some people have more money to "piss off" than others. |
There's another forum that I visit every couple of days where there's a character that must've won the lottery or something. He popped in with not one clue about audio, be it software, hardware, acoustics, nothin'. Suddenly he says "Can someone mention a nice, big mixer board? Money's no object." Not long after, he's got a Neve. He kept coming back asking for opinions on compressors, preamps, reverb's, mic's, et cetera, where money was "no object". Now he's got all of this massively expensive equipment, and he's still asking how to EQ vocals for a rap song.
I didn't ask, and I don't think I want to know...
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jonrose
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Posted - Sun Apr 06, 2003 12:12 am
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Well, post, if "money is no object" for this guy, have him fly you out to wherever he is located and put you up for a couple of years while you teach him some basic audio engineering. Who knows, you may end up with a bunch of well-paying clients and a rich bozo that'll just stand back and let you run the show (once he realizes he still knows nothing after all that time)!
Heh-heh!
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post78
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Posted - Sun Apr 06, 2003 1:34 am
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Well now, I like that idea... Okay, I'm off to wherever the heck this guy is. See you all later. 
(I wish!)
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jonrose
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Posted - Sun Apr 06, 2003 2:26 am
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No joke, post!
Tell you what - try this:
Wish in one hand while you spit into the other - and I think you'll see rather quickly which one fills up the fastest...
So, write to him, you young whippersnapper! What have you got to lose? If this guy needs that much help, he should be willing to pay for it.
You have to take chances or your chances will be taken away!
Best... -Jon
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post78
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Posted - Sun Apr 06, 2003 2:45 am
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Well, dangit Jon, your point is just too good to argue with. I will contact him. I'll let you know.
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jonrose
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Posted - Sun Apr 06, 2003 2:48 am
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You shouldn't need me to kick you in the arse...
Heh!
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AMSG
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Posted - Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:01 am
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| post78 wrote: |
There's another forum that I visit every couple of days where there's a character that must've won the lottery or something. He popped in with not one clue about audio, be it software, hardware, acoustics, nothin'. Suddenly he says "Can someone mention a nice, big mixer board? Money's no object." Not long after, he's got a Neve. He kept coming back asking for opinions on compressors, preamps, reverb's, mic's, et cetera, where money was "no object". Now he's got all of this massively expensive equipment, and he's still asking how to EQ vocals for a rap song.
I didn't ask, and I don't think I want to know... |
WHAT?! A Neve?? Grrrrrrrrrrr]:}
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post78
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Posted - Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:14 am
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Actually, I don't think it was really a Neve. I just remember it being some massively expensive board, somewhere close to the $100k mark. So, I suppose a bit less extravagant than a Neve, but similarly outrageous.
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AMSG
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Posted - Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:24 am
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That made me think of a studio I know about here...well, not only here actually. There are many.
They just have everything there. Acoustically treated rooms, lots of external effects, big mixing console,etc etc. The whole thing must have costed millions.
By the way, it doesn't matter almost which currency you use, hehe, it'll be millions anyway:D Except for the currency in zaire maybe...
No but serious, the guy has lots of stuff. And then there's me with my computer with my aardvark Q10, cool edit pro, sonar2XL, ozone, some more plugins and a handful of microphones. But the fact is that his productions sound alot worse than mine!
And here's the frustrating part : customers do LOOK alot instead of listening. I mean, they often go after the flashy stuff they see in the studio instead for the result, I've noticed. They just BELIEVE that the ones with all the expensive stuff HAVE to better. And they are also willing to pay more I've noticed if you have alot of gear. Isn't this strange? I mean, shouldn't the result be the most important thing? Or am I the only one thinking like this?:)
This also happened for someone I know. His studio wasn't flashy at all, no professional acoustical treatment, some gear but not much actually compared to others. But I can assure you that his productions did sound great. He also told me that it took a while before people started to LISTEN to his work instead of judging what he HAD there!
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post78
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Posted - Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:05 pm
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So far I've heard nothing.
I'll keep looking out for a reply, but he hasn't been on that particular forum in a few weeks either, so...
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DeluXMan
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Posted - Sat Apr 12, 2003 3:44 pm
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It was really the 21 day fully functional trial demo that made me even notice and then TRY CEP, as i was already checking out Sonar 2.0 for audio on PC. At first i knew nothing about PC audio! 8)
I used the CEP demo almost non-stop for 21 days, and then for another few months [without saving] since it remains fully functional but for the saving of files. :P
Anyway this may account for a few of us asking the silly questions about expensive software. :D
Anyway... what's VST got that DX don't got?
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VoodooRadio
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Posted - Sat Apr 12, 2003 5:31 pm
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| Anyway... what's VST got that DX don't got? |
Nothing that I've found. It's common among alot of folks to be "preset" junkies. They try something and like it and begin to swear by it. Let's face it.... for the most part a flanger is a flanger is a flanger. It pretty much holds true for the majority of effects. Learn how an effect actually works and how to "dial in" what you want and then there is a very transparent difference between any one manufacturers version of a given effect. Granted, some manufactureres have written some really good algorithems and have put together awesome packages. I say learn "how" an effect works and you can pretty much get what you want from any of them. 
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