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ryangruhn · Posted - Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:33 pm

Do I need to install anything or set anything up for Cool Eidt to see my Roland MIDI connection for my Roland V-Drums? I have it plugged in in the back, but I cant figure out how to record the MIDI signal. If you guys know of a forum that explains it, or if you could it would be a lot of help!

Thanks!!

Ryan

ozpeter · Location: Australia

Cool Edit doesn't record midi - if you want you can record the line out of your midi device into the line in of your computer to transfer the audio signal.

- Ozpeter

Graeme · Member Location: Spain

... alternatively, you can record the midi output into a sequencer first. You can then play the midi file this produces in CEP.

However, you will only be able to use this file in the mix if you render it to .wav format first.

Depending quite on what you are trying to achieve, you may find CEP is not really the right software or the job.

ryangruhn · Posted - Tue Feb 18, 2003 3:11 pm

Man,
That kind sucks, is there anyway to record MIDI with a cool edit plug in? I record 5 piece arangments by myself and I use my Roland V-drums to record the drum tracks. Why does cool edit have a MIDI in and MIDI out then, in the options?

Ryan

Graeme · Member Location: Spain

SteveG · Location: United Kingdom

rharris108 · Posted - Tue Mar 04, 2003 3:41 am

I have a question about MIDI. I use XG Works sequencer with CEP 2.0.

I know you can use MIDI triggers to start CEP recording. What I want to do is record audio into CEP from my sequencer track by track into CEP but trigger the start of the record from the sequencer so all my tracks are automatically synchronised (instead of doing it manually as I have to now.)

I see the MIDI trigger option in CEP but do not know how to get this working. Any help please???

ozpeter · Location: Australia

There's plenty (of help) in the product help file on this subject - what's the specific problem - what doesn't work?

- Ozpeter

rharris108 · Posted - Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:13 am

Thanks for your reply.

My question was really a 'how do you get it working' one. What I wouild like is more detailed instructions about triggering the transport of CEP to record from a MIDI command in my sequencer.

I understood that you could say choose a track in the sequencer and put a note on at the beginning of the first measure in a track set say to Channel 1, then in CEP set that note to trigger transport record on on Channel 1. However I have never been able to get CEP to accept the note info into the dialog box for MIDI triggering. It is this that I would like more guidance on. I am quite happy about recording audio into CEP from my sequencer - it's how to synchronise when I have multiple MIDI tracks which I wnat to record one at a time into CEP

ray

Syntrillium M.D. · Location: USA

Hello Ryan and Ray. To synchronize the two applications would require the use of MTC/SMPTE, preferably (in this case) where CEP is the 'Slave' device and your sequencer is the master.

Because you are presumably doing this all on one machine, it gets a little tricky (and depending on the machine you're using, may or may not yield perfect results)

Either way, it is possible - but you'll need someway for CEP to see the MTC input (ie, Midi In) from your sequencing app. For this, you'll have to use a midi-loopback app, something like MidiYoke or HubiLoopBack.

Beyond that, once it's set-up it's pretty straightforward. Make sure that your framerates (ie, 30FPS, etc) are the same between the two applications, make sure you set a long enough offset in CEP (this is explained on the forum and in the help file in CEP) and you're good to go.

Do a search for SMPTE/MTC sync and I'm sure you'll find dozens of past threads.

---Syntrillium, M.D.

rharris108 · Posted - Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:41 am

Thanks M.D,

That counts me out as I have found MIDI OX makes a mess of my machine especially as I use Gigastudio as well. It not only renders Gigastudio unusable but also make the system unstable so I have had to uninstall it. I guess I can manage to do this manually - but it's a shame.

ray

e-drummer · Posted - Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:37 am

Ryangruhn ,Hubi works great for me and dosn`t "make a mess" of the system.
It just sits there invisibly until you need to use it.

I know Ive said this before, but I still feel that to call the software an "audio editing application" is selling it short.
Especially with the release of CEP2 and all its extra capabillities, the functionality of the multitrack view and the inclusion of midi playback or the loop functions takes nothing away from CEP`s superb audio editing capabilities.
Not looking for an argument ,just respectfully dissagreeing.

rharris108 · Posted - Wed Mar 05, 2003 2:00 am

e-drummer,
I think you are mistaking me for a guy called Ryangruhn. I just joined in this thread with a question (maybe I sdhould have started new one - but I'm new to this board??. I forgot to mention that I am running XP and Hubis doesn't yet work on XP although I have used it with the loathsome ME. Neither does Midi Ox work with XP and it did not agree with my system. As for CEP. I think it's great. I have actually managed to set up Gigastudio, XGWorks with my SW1000 card and Cool Edit to create a complete audio workstation, so CEP is a valuable addition to my set up. Perhaps Ryan doesn't like it because he had difficulty getting his head around how to record MIDI. I don't have that problem at all and anyway what he was talking about is not a CEP problem per se, but it does confuse a lot of people.

Thanks to you all for your help though. I recorded 7 audio tracks from the sequencer using SW1000 internal synth sounds and Gigastudio sounds via a Delta 2496 card into CEP and can now use it's awesome DSP and mastering abilities to finish off my track. So I'm happy.

Another bit of advice that worked for me is to use a multi boot partition for music (I used the UK company HyperOS (HyperOsSystems.com) - although you can do this with most modern Windows systems. Then I can apply Patthoven's 'bible' only to that version of Windows.

ray harris