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bandajoe


Location: Brazil


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Post Posted - Mon Jan 13, 2003 10:59 am 

Hi

Can someone says what to do first in a track to put in a multitrack?

NORMALIZE,COMPRESSOR, EQ, EFFECTS,NOISE REDUCTION, HARDLIMITING??

And in a Mastering?

COMPRESSOR? EQ? EFFECTS? NOICE REDUCTION?

I ve been doing my way but Im not sure if itīs right ...sometimes I compress and use ULTRAMAXIMAZER after, is that right?

Iīve heard is good to use a litlle reverb in a final mix.. Has Cooledit any preset good for that?

Thanx

JOE


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Graeme

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Post Posted - Mon Jan 13, 2003 11:06 am 

Try a search (button at top of this page) - you'll find a lot of tips about mixing. iZotope (authors of Ozone, a mastering tool) have a nice .pdf file concerning a lot of the basics for free download from their website.

You'll find all other sorts of pertinent information on the 'net - use a search engine to find it.

There are no hard and fast rules - although there are preferred methods, for one reason or another. What you won't find - in this or any other software - is a 'magic button' which turns crap into cream. The only way to really learn this stuff is to keep doing it until you get it right.

Forget about 'mastering' - get the mix right and it won't be necessary.

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bandajoe


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Post Posted - Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:54 pm 

:]THAX !!!!!

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VoodooRadio


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Post Posted - Mon Jan 13, 2003 3:53 pm 

Here's some gooooood reading for ya!..... www.studiocovers.com

It's doesn't necessarily touch on what order per se, but it will offer ALOT of insight into the various processes. Shy

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post78


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Post Posted - Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:50 pm 

I noticed you asked about normalization and noise reduction. I'll say (and I doubt that any will disagree) that the best situation you can be in is to record and perform a project so well that you don't need to do anything except mixdown, convert, and thank your lucky stars. Usually, this isn't the case. Though, I must say that before moving any further, you should practice simple recording until you get to the point where normalization and noise reduction aren't required. It's bad practice to use either of these functions, unless doing some sort of restoration work.
As Graeme says, if the mix is done well, mastering shouldn't be needed (of course, it doesn't hurt to send it off to a ME for a second opinion). Regardless, this is definitely not a place for noise reduction. I also feel that reverb at this stage is not a good idea. Others might disagree on that last point, but I find that it usually does more damage than good. If you need to stick your audio in a "place" using reverb (usually the point), it's best done on the multi-tracks.

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llaamaboy


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Post Posted - Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:19 pm 

A basic question here ...
I just did my first "mix" and want to confirm that effect are cumlative. That is, apply one and the wave is changed, add an otherone and the wave is changed again...

Thanks in advance

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post78


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Post Posted - Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:29 pm 

That's correct.

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llaamaboy


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Post Posted - Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:54 pm 

Ok ... NOW I'm Impressed.

It all started with a new Hi8Dig movie camera for Christmas... which lead to sound which brings me to this post. Although the cost was somewhat hi for CE Pro and has way more than I need, it took me 15 minutes to get going on a 16 channel mix to a CD for my wife which she really likes. All of that is good but... we were out walking at sunset tonight and happened by a pond full of frogs making a _lot_ of sounds (just let me know if its mating season Smile ) so we took the camera and and recorded for 20 minutes - mostly for the sound. Now the trick was to get the sound out so I started to poke around Studio 8 (video editing) and did not find much about extracting sound. Opened CE Pro and in the first Menu saw "Extract Audio from Video" which is exactly what I needed! And while many of you are probably a sleep by now reading this, Im stoked! I can record any sound I need by taking a video of it. Yea I know its not pro, but it sure does get me going on recording nature sounds!
Everyone at Cool Edit - Give your selves a pay raise! Your product is worth its cost and so much more!


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Post Posted - Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:46 am 

Pretty cool story, Llama. Those are the ones that warm the heart and soul!

(getting a little sentimental)

Cheers, and happy (extracting) recording!

---Syntrillium, M.D.

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