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« on: July 15, 2003, 03:51:00 PM »
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I am currently working on a project to keep me busy during these long summer holidays.  Being the weezer fan I am, I decided to do a cover of Say it Ain't So, layering all 3 guitar parts, vocals, and maybe the bass part as well.  I have come across a problem though.  during the chorus, distortion kicks in and I believe volume level changes.  The way I am recording is running my guitar into my amp, and then out the headphone jack, directly into my computer, and I am running on my clean channel.

because I have found no way to put an effect on just one section of a track (if I'm wrong please correct me, it would make my life easier) I guess I have to create a new track for just the chorus of the song.  Here's my problem.  Playing the guitar part and stopping at the chorus is throwing me off, even with the help of the handy built in metranome.  Is there a way that I can record the whole song in one track, clean, and then cut out the chorus and paste it into another tack?  I seem to cut fine, but there's no paste option when I go to my edit menu in the multitrack view.

wow, that's really long for such a tiny problem huh   but anywayz, if ANYONE can help, I'd be grateful, thanx

nEmo
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« on: July 15, 2003, 04:01:14 PM »
Syntax Error Offline
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Hi there,

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I have found no way to put an effect on just one section of a track (if I'm wrong please correct me, it would make my life easier)


Make a recording. After that put a FX on the track you recorded on. Then press the 'show Wet/Dry envelope' button and the 'edit envelopes' button (both are icons at the top of the screen). Now you can draw an envelope. To do what you want, pull the envelope line all the way to the bottom of the waveblock except for the part where you want the chorus.

Hope this helps a bit,

-- Syntax
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« on: July 15, 2003, 05:28:40 PM »
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thanks, that helps and its a hell of a lot easier than what I just finished doing....oh well, good to know for next time.

and this is more for guitarists out there but does anyone know how to get decent distortion out of cool edit?!?!  at the moment I'm using 70's fuzz but its a bit fuzzy, good for solos though Cheesy
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« on: July 15, 2003, 05:31:23 PM »
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Hi again,

Distortion in the digital domain is awful. I personally never found a good app/FX unit to do this inside a computer. Not even in CEP Smiley

My advice would be to use a hardware unit.

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« on: July 15, 2003, 06:39:34 PM »
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Agreed - if you want that sort of guitar sound, it's a lot better to create it outside of the computer environment.
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« on: July 15, 2003, 06:58:05 PM »
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for that matter, I never have achieved a decent sound from the headphone jack of a guitar amplifier.  If you have access to an SM57 or similar mic, I would highly recommend using that to mic the cabinet.

Either way, Graeme and Syntax are right on about digital distortion.  Borrow/beg an amplifier with built in distortion if you can.  Another option, if you have to record direct, would be to get your hands on a Line6 POD, a Johnson J-station, a Behringer V-Amp, or something similar.  You might also look into Izotope Trash.  I've never used it myself, but I haven't heard any complaints yet.  This would at least allow to add the effect using the wet/dry envelopes.

Anyway, either way, props on your choice of music (weezer rocks), and good luck to you.  I'd love to hear what you come up with in the end.

Josh
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« on: July 15, 2003, 07:10:12 PM »
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Quote from: the3jsgrve
for that matter, I never have achieved a decent sound from the headphone jack of a guitar amplifier.  If you have access to an SM57 or similar mic, I would highly recommend using that to mic the cabinet.


Very true indeed. I once did a home recording with a band I played in at the time. We recorded directly from the headphone jack... sounded like a chipmunk playing a casio...

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« on: July 17, 2003, 08:29:16 PM »
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Very true indeed. I once did a home recording with a band I played in at the time. We recorded directly from the headphone jack... sounded like a chipmunk playing a casio...

-- Syntax


lol cheesy [/quote]
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« on: July 17, 2003, 11:08:49 PM »
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You might also look into Izotope Trash.
Or the AIPL WarmTone plug-in.   wink
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Good Luck!

VooDoo
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